NFL: Kansas City Chiefs Thread

People keep pointing to the offensive line as a major problem and an area for rebuilding, but are not looking at who was starting on the offensive line in the first week and who is starting there now. When Taylor went down, we moved Moore over there and we were fine, then two weeks ago, Moore goes down for the season and we are now playing a back up for a backup. Last week it happened again, the backup for Simmons get hurt on the first series and we are done to playing a guy that was on the practice squad the week before.
Simmons missed half the season, a month when he went home and then getting hurt a couple of weeks ago, before he left, his play was at the top of the league for much of the time he was on the field. Suamataia has made the jump from tackle to guard and performed very well, Smith and Humphrey are pro bowl caliber players and we have either Taylor or Moore at the RT position. All could return next season, and should be better with improved health and playing together another year, I would expect a large jump in performance from Simmons and Suamataia for no other reason that they will be in the 2nd year of playing together.
The offense needs something to take the pressure off of Mahomes, I doubt we can get a Kelsey like TE in this draft, so its either another WR, a position the team has invested a #1 and #2 pick over the past two years or a running back.
I thought the line looked like garbage even when they were healthy honestly.
 
I think RB is an overvalued position in the current NFL. Its a passing league. I don't like the idea of paying big money long term to guys that take a lot of hits. Especially when you can get somewhat similar production at a quarter of the cost. The shelf life of a back playing at an elite level isn't what it once was either. There are only a handful of truly elite backs imo.
But you are not paying him long term, only the first four years of the contract, and if he works out, the 5th year. Then you decide to we let him walk, like the Giants did with Barkley or resign him. How did the decision work out for the Giants? The key to running backs is to get them on their first contract, when they are relatively cheap like all players on their first deal. It's a huge difference to over pay for a back like Hall that has been in the league 4 years and a 22 year old Love that has not taken the hits.
 
I thought the line looked like garbage even when they were healthy honestly.
The line looked fine when you remember they traded an all pro guard to the Bears and were starting a rookie at LT and a former tackle at guard. Go back and look at how the two graded out in their first 6 games and it was at the top of the position group. Injuries and lack of playing together hurt the line more than lack of talent. We also was missing Rice for the first 6 games, and Worthy got hurt the first series of the first game and missed time, Kelsey is a shell of himself and we have zero running game. Mahomes has been our leading rushing in half the games played so far this year and has had longer runs than either one of the starting running backs.
 
But you are not paying him long term, only the first four years of the contract, and if he works out, the 5th year. Then you decide to we let him walk, like the Giants did with Barkley or resign him. How did the decision work out for the Giants? The key to running backs is to get them on their first contract, when they are relatively cheap like all players on their first deal. It's a huge difference to over pay for a back like Hall that has been in the league 4 years and a 22 year old Love that has not taken the hits.

I just think there is one and only one Barkley.
 
I just think there is one and only one Barkley.
Love very well could be the next Barley, the type of talent that takes a lot of pressure off of Mahomes and creates nightmares for a defense. I do not want to see KC trade up to get him, we have too many other needs, but he could be that once in a generation running back, paired with an all time QB playing together for the next five years. To me, if he is there and only him, I jump on the chance to take him if I am the Chiefs.
 
Love very well could be the next Barley, the type of talent that takes a lot of pressure off of Mahomes and creates nightmares for a defense. I do not want to see KC trade up to get him, we have too many other needs, but he could be that once in a generation running back, paired with an all time QB playing together for the next five years. To me, if he is there and only him, I jump on the chance to take him if I am the Chiefs.

I mean he could be but it’s just incredibly unlikely.

Basically every prospect ranking system has him as not as good of a prospect as Ashton Jeanty last year and I would consider drafting him in the first round to be a bad idea.
 
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I thought the line looked like garbage even when they were healthy honestly.
And how much of that was scheme?

Even when everyone gets healthy, I think everyone agrees that the offense needs to change. Whatever they are doing now just isn't good enough anymore.
 
I mean he could be but it’s just incredibly unlikely.

Basically every prospect ranking system has him as not as good of a prospect as Ashton Jeanty last year and I would consider drafting him in the first round to be a bad idea.

In a vacuum drafting Jeanty in the first round is fine. Drafting him in the first round when your offensive line is terrible is a stupid thing to do.

I wouldn't draft a RB in the first round if I were the Chiefs because I think they have other needs that are harder to replace in FA. I think the Chiefs will have plenty of options in FA for minimal cost to upgrade the RB room.

From an outsiders prospective I think they need in order of importance

1) pass rusher
2)cornerback
3)big body WR who can be counted on
4)explosive RB
5)pass catching TE
 
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I mean he could be but it’s just incredibly unlikely.

Basically every prospect ranking system has him as not as good of a prospect as Ashton Jeanty last year and I would consider drafting him in the first round to be a bad idea.
Most have him listed in the top 3 of this draft class overall, but think because of his position and the need for QBs that he will fall anywhere from 5 to 15 at the lowest. His comparisons to Jeanty are about equal, and Love did it at a much higher level than Jeanty did at BSU, plus he would not be playing for the Raiders, the worst organization in the league.
The last NFL draft had Jeanty graded at 7.15 5' 8.5" and weighing in at 211, Love is a little bigger at 6" 0" and weighing in at 214 pounds, the NFL has not given its final grades on Love, but it will be interesting to compare it to Jeanty from the year before.

Look I am not all in for drafting a RB in the first round, unless it's Love, otherwise I agree with what Clark posted above. If Love is gone when they draft, then find a rush end or D lineman, and take the best Corner, TE or maybe another WR in the 2nd round. For me it's either all in on Love or move down the list. I think he is a once in a generation talent and overall just a great kid. At age 20 he is still young and would provide Mahomes and the Chiefs something they have lacked this entire run, a great running back.
 
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Here is what the Athletics Dane Bugler, their NFL Draft writer had to say about Love

Saquon Barkley was picked apart pre-draft for having “questionable vision” and doing “too much dancing.” However, at a certain point, you just bet on the unique athlete who can do freaky things with the ball in his hands. He and Barkley are different types of running backs, but I think the process will be similar for Love. His ability to smash the accelerator and stay on his feet through contact makes him a nightmare to tackle, mainly when he attacks the second level of a defense.

The NFL wants explosive playmakers who impact the scoreboard. Love does that better than any other draft-eligible prospect in the class.

NFL Draft projection: Love is a top-five talent in the 2026 NFL Draft and my highest-graded running back since Bijan Robinson. However, positional value will likely keep him out of the top five picks. All that means is a team drafting in the six-to-12 range will land an explosive weapon who will immediately upgrade an NFL offense.

 
In a vacuum drafting Jeanty in the first round is fine. Drafting him in the first round when your offensive line is terrible is a stupid thing to do.

I wouldn't draft a RB in the first round if I were the Chiefs because I think they have other needs that are harder to replace in FA. I think the Chiefs will have plenty of options in FA for minimal cost to upgrade the RB room.

From an outsiders prospective I think they need in order of importance

1) pass rusher (Will McDonald)
2)cornerback (TJ Tampa)
3)big body WR who can be counted on (Lazard or Butler)
4)explosive RB (Hall)
5)pass catching TE (Kolar)

Sign em' up!!
 
And how much of that was scheme?

Even when everyone gets healthy, I think everyone agrees that the offense needs to change. Whatever they are doing now just isn't good enough anymore.
I'm sure it's a combination of several things. I'm with you about this offense needing an overhaul. The little wrinkles that once worked clearly aren't fooling anyone.
 
This is interesting. Soren is connected, but based on what I have heard, I would be surprised if the Chiefs went to Kansas. I would not be surprised if they moved all practice facilities/offices to Kansas, however.

 
This is interesting. Soren is connected, but based on what I have heard, I would be surprised if the Chiefs went to Kansas. I would not be surprised if they moved all practice facilities/offices to Kansas, however.


Kansas wants both teams and the morons in Jackson County don't want to pay a tiny sales tax increase so they are going to lose both teams. Stupidity is killing the MO side of the metro.
 
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Kansas wants both teams and the morons in Jackson County don't want to pay a tiny sales tax increase so they are going to lose both teams. Stupidity is killing the MO side of the metro.
Kansas has STAR bonds to offer, which didn't need voter approval, and Missouri just recently passed a poor man's version of this.

I've heard that the Chiefs want their own complex that they wont have the share with the Royals. It would open up more revenue from concerts that they can't have when you have 81 days blocked off for baseball games. Sounds like the Hunt family is split on keeping Arrowhead or building an enclosed stadium. There seems to be agreement in moving all other facilities over to Kansas, in part to escape the 1% KCMO earnings tax. I think the Royals being all over the place with their plans with no real path forward might be mounting the Chiefs to act on something now.

As someone who lives on the Missouri side, I honestly do not care what side of the state line either is on. However, it would be a shame if Arrowhead was no longer where the Chiefs play football. I also get why they want an enclosed stadium.
 
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Kansas has STAR bonds to offer, which didn't need voter approval, and Missouri just recently passed a poor man's version of this.

I've heard that the Chiefs want their own complex that they wont have the share with the Royals. It would open up more revenue from concerts that they can't have when you have 81 days blocked off for baseball games. Sounds like the Hunt family is split on keeping Arrowhead or building an enclosed stadium. There seems to be agreement in moving all other facilities over to Kansas, in part to escape the 1% KCMO earnings tax. I think the Royals being all over the place with their plans with no real path forward might be mounting the Chiefs to act on something now.

As someone who lives on the Missouri side, I honestly do not care what side of the state line either is on. However, it would be a shame if Arrowhead was no longer where the Chiefs play football. I also get why they want an enclosed stadium.
What happened to the planned move of the Royals to downtown. I always figured that would be the move, thereby freeing up the Truman Sports Complex for the Chiefs to do what they want?
Its a shame that it sounds like they will be moving, but for many people coming down to a game, out by the race track in Kansas would not be any more difficult to reach coming down from Iowa than the current location. Down and over to St. Joe, and then I-29 down to cross over west of the airport.
 
This is interesting. Soren is connected, but based on what I have heard, I would be surprised if the Chiefs went to Kansas. I would not be surprised if they moved all practice facilities/offices to Kansas, however.


Damn, when the Chiefs die they really go all out. RIP to an iconic stadium with insane atmosphere, hello corporate snooze fest stadium with ridiculous prices and no soul.