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John Meeks reconsidering Nebraska commitment

ChrisMWilliams said:
Not sure if Iowa State would have a shot or not, but an interesting tidbit from the Register nonetheless.

Des Moines Roosevelt's John Meeks reconsidering commitment to Nebraska wrestling | The Des Moines Register | DesMoinesRegister.com
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Word on the street is this guy wants a full ride at his next stopping point. This is a little pricey, considering ISU is in on a better 130 pounder from Florida named Rossi Bruno. I think ISU would only spend a ful scholarship on Taylor Massa in the next recruiting cycle. The wherewithal to spend a full scholarship, and the lack of scholies in wrestling allow a lot of high ranked guys to go to smaller programs that will pony up the money.
 
Chris, I thought the same thing, but if things are as brett108 says it doesn't appear likely.
 
brett108 said:
Word on the street is this guy wants a full ride at his next stopping point. This is a little pricey, considering ISU is in on a better 130 pounder from Florida named Rossi Bruno. I think ISU would only spend a ful scholarship on Taylor Massa in the next recruiting cycle. The wherewithal to spend a full scholarship, and the lack of scholies in wrestling allow a lot of high ranked guys to go to smaller programs that will pony up the money.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
 
Yeah, I'd love to get him but I would be very suprised if we had the schollie money available this to give him anything approaching a full ride without killing the rest of our recruiting for next year.

I agree with Brett108 that he'll probably end up at a second tier program that can offer him a full ride.
 
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Has anyone watched Meeks wrestle? I have seen him more than a few times, and while being an undefeated 3x champ is undeniably incredible, I just don't see a guy who will be in the mix for national titles. He just never seems to dominate or attack with aggression. In my opinion wrestling is about agression in its simplest form and I have never seen it from Meeks. If I am recruiting, I am looking for the Jon Reader mentality, and Meeks seems to be on the other end of the spectrum in that regard.

If ISU is going to give anyone a full ride in wrestling, it should be Clark from SEP but that is a major up hill battle.
 
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I would think the amount of money he'd have to pay going to Nebraska on a half scholarship and Iowa State on a half scholarship are two largely different amounts, so maybe that's what it is...I know that everyone has heard he is looking for a full ride, and maybe that's why he decommitted to nebby, maybe the offered a full ride than rescinded the offer, who knows, but it would be nice to keep the highest ranked Iowa guy in next years class in state...
 
have a question about the 9.9 scholarships.
Does in state and out of state count the same?
Meaning is it x # of dollars or a percentage of that
students total costs?

Example; to make the numbers easy let's say a year at ISU
is 20k out of state and 15k in state. Two recruits get half rides
the out of state would get 10k but does the in state kid get 10k
0r 7500?
 
Cyforce said:
have a question about the 9.9 scholarships.
Does in state and out of state count the same?
Meaning is it x # of dollars or a percentage of that
students total costs?
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I'm sure for a lot of programs the coaches have to take that in to account, but ISU is fully funded, so it's 9.9 total, regardless of in-state or out of state.

Though I'm sure Jackson uses the lowered cost of in-state tuition when pitching to recruits from Iowa. For guys who aren't blue-chips it is likely less expensive to walk on to Iowa State, Iowa, or UNI than it is to go out of state for a partial schollie.
 
His brother Blake is also transfering to a North Carolina Art school and giving up wrestling, so wrestling and rooming with his brother is no longer an attraction at Nebraska. It takes a David Taylor type kid to warrant a full ride and John Meeks is not Taylor, but would love to see him in a Cyclone singlet.
 
buf87 said:
His brother Blake is also transfering to a North Carolina Art school and giving up wrestling, so wrestling and rooming with his brother is no longer an attraction at Nebraska. It takes a David Taylor type kid to warrant a full ride and John Meeks is not Taylor, but would love to see him in a Cyclone singlet.
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From what I have seen the only two guys in the next recruiting cycle that might warrant this are Massa and Tsirtis. Brooks Black will likely get one in two years as well.
 
I agree with Massa, not even sure about Tsirtsis, but could see it. With 9.9 scholarships, hard to committ over 10% in one guy for 5 years.
 
I see Sorenson graduated and will be taking graduate courses. Is he on the same tuition base as an under graduate or is it cheaper. Basically does it affect what his athletic scholarships is?
 
buf87 said:
I see Sorenson graduated and will be taking graduate courses. Is he on the same tuition base as an under graduate or is it cheaper. Basically does it affect what his athletic scholarships is?
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9.9 Scholarships is 9.9 scholarships, the tuition cost is irrelevant to the NCAA.
 
Judoka said:
9.9 Scholarships is 9.9 scholarships, the tuition cost is irrelevant to the NCAA.
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I mean since he graduated this May and will still be wrestling next year, will he still be receiving scholarship money next year. Probably similiar to Chris Drouin last year, I believe he already graduated from ASU prior to coming to ISU. Or was that money available this past year?
 
Judoka said:
9.9 Scholarships is 9.9 scholarships, the tuition cost is irrelevant to the NCAA.
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Huh. That is interesting. So there really is no advantage/disadvantage in regard to recruiting in-state vs. out of state. Besides geography, and assuming your pockets are deep enough to handle several out of state schollies.
 
isukendall said:
Huh. That is interesting. So there really is no advantage/disadvantage in regard to recruiting in-state vs. out of state. Besides geography, and assuming your pockets are deep enough to handle several out of state schollies.
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I'm not sure how much pressure Jackson has for in-state vs. out of state as far as total amount of money available for scholarships, though I am sure at a lot of schools with more limited funds it matters. But from the NCAA's perspective it's just 9.9 scholarships, just like it doesn't matter for Football or Basketball if a schollie is for an in-state or out of state kid.
 
I read a good article on the Open mat talking baout how something needs to change, as the NCAA championship is the culmination of folkstyle wrestling, and the NCAA couldn't care less about the sport. The 9.9 schlarships is a huge hamstring,as is the lack of promotion for the sport. You are seeing good recruits now not even go to college. McCauley and Tanner Hall are both headed to the Olympic training center rather than college for at least a year. This trend will only continue in the future.
 
Judoka said:
I'm not sure how much pressure Jackson has for in-state vs. out of state as far as total amount of money available for scholarships, though I am sure at a lot of schools with more limited funds it matters. But from the NCAA's perspective it's just 9.9 scholarships, just like it doesn't matter for Football or Basketball if a schollie is for an in-state or out of state kid.
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But when the kids are receiving fractions of scholarships rather than full rides, the in-state versus out-of-state tuition issues does matter from the athlete's perspective. If Meeks gets a 1/4 scholarship from an in-state school where in-state tuition is $10,000, then he has to pay $7,500 out-of-pocket. If Meeks gets a 1/2 scholarship from an out-of-state school where out-of-state tuition is $20,000, then he has to pay $10,000 out-of-pocket. The lower tuition trumps the higher fractional scholarship.
 
GoCubsGo said:
But when the kids are receiving fractions of scholarships rather than full rides, the in-state versus out-of-state tuition issues does matter from the athlete's perspective. If Meeks gets a 1/4 scholarship from an in-state school where in-state tuition is $10,000, then he has to pay $7,500 out-of-pocket. If Meeks gets a 1/2 scholarship from an out-of-state school where out-of-state tuition is $20,000, then he has to pay $10,000 out-of-pocket. The lower tuition trumps the higher fractional scholarship.
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Very true for the athlete and I'm sure that is a huge factor in recruiting. But irrelevent for the NCAA scholarship limits.
 
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