ISU's problem

[twojman]

Take a look at ISU's offensive statistics through 11 games, not good compared to the rest of the conference. College Football - Statistics by Team - Rivals.com


I can understand the defensive #'s not being great but not the offense. ISU has a left tackle that could be in the NFL next season. Lamaak could be an NFL free agent. Colin Franklin will get some time in the NFL and AROB has outside hope in the NFL. There is talent on this offense, why is it so bad? Do the players not understand what they are to do? Poor play calling? Poor execution? Are we easy to defend? Are there some football smarts lacking on the offensive side of the ball? What is the answer? Is Herman gone after next season without significant improvement? Take away the pick 6's and special teams TD's and the PPG are under 20 which is not real good.

 

[CycloneErik]

I don't think most of the offense is very talented. It's sad, but I think it's pretty evident by now.

Still, they can put together some good games. Only need to put together two more.....

 

[pyrocyz]

We never look to go vertical with the passing game. Thats why our offense is so bad. All we do is run the ball and throw 5-10 yard routes.

 

[IcSyU]

Having good players means nothing if they don't fit the system you want to run. Receivers are subpar, quarterback is average. Not a formula for success in this offense. I have a feeling Herman gets 4 years just to give him one full class of his own kids.

Throw in our quarterback and running back having nagging injuries all year, and you have a big issue.

 

[Al_4_State]

Inconsistent line play has been our biggest problem. When our line controls the line of scrimmage, we do fine. When our line gets beat, we can't do anything.

 

[CycloneErik]

Inconsistent line play has been our biggest problem. When our line controls the line of scrimmage, we do fine. When our line gets beat, we can't do anything.

I think that the receivers lack to speed to offset that.

Basically, our offense overall has to have everything clicking to do well. If one part has a hiccup, we're in a whole lot of trouble.

But, yeah, you can't count on the OL to show up consistently, and that's just brutal. So different from last year in that regard. Maybe Reggie Stephens was even more of an asset than we thought? (And I know people have brought him up a lot, but maybe we're really, really, really, really seeing what a stabilizing force he was.)

 

[3GenClone]

I've been wondering if Herman has been more conservative with the offense than he would be if he had a more "talented" (for lack of a better term) squad. It's got to be tough being the second or third offensive coordinator this offense has seen, so maybe the playcalling has been more simplistic this season in hopes that in year three more advanced formations and play-calls will be used - at least I hope this is the case. There have been some definite flashes of brilliance this season that make me believe that Herman has what it takes to coach in the Big 12/10.

 

[Senolcyc]

Take a look at ISU's offensive statistics through 11 games, not good compared to the rest of the conference.

Were they really good through 10 games??? This is a season-long thing, it didn't just flare up in game 11.

 

[twojman]

Question for everyone, did Herman really have more talent at Houston then at ISU?

 

[CycloneErik]

Question for everyone, did Herman really have more talent at Houston then at ISU?

You mean Rice? Not likely that he did, but maybe compared to the defensive talent he faced?

That's just an option for thought. I don't have a definite answer.

 

[The_Architect]

Question for everyone, did Herman really have more talent at Houston then at ISU?

Rice.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Take a look at ISU's offensive statistics through 11 games, not good compared to the rest of the conference. College Football - Statistics by Team - Rivals.com


I can understand the defensive #'s not being great but not the offense. ISU has a left tackle that could be in the NFL next season. Lamaak could be an NFL free agent. Colin Franklin will get some time in the NFL and AROB has outside hope in the NFL. There is talent on this offense, why is it so bad? Do the players not understand what they are to do? Poor play calling? Poor execution? Are we easy to defend? Are there some football smarts lacking on the offensive side of the ball? What is the answer? Is Herman gone after next season without significant improvement? Take away the pick 6's and special teams TD's and the PPG are under 20 which is not real good.

I would not draft KO right now. He struggles on any sort of inside out rush. His upside is tremendous and I expect him to be very good next year but I don't see it right now. Collin Frankin would be drafted. ARob may get looks. Lamaak will be borderline. There is little talent on the perimeter and AA is not all that great. You cannot be one dimensional. with the limited talent we have, we need a great QB. Look at Nevada. I don't think their receivers are all that good but their QB is pretty damn good so they don't have to be as good.

We never look to go vertical with the passing game. Thats why our offense is so bad. All we do is run the ball and throw 5-10 yard routes.

You can't go deep if you don't have the protection to do it.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Question for everyone, did Herman really have more talent at Houston then at ISU?

No, but he didn't coach against the Big 12, Iowa and Utah either.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Question for everyone, did Herman really have more talent at Houston then at ISU?

1. He was at Rice, not Houston.

2. CUSA competition <<<<<< Big 12 competition, and ISU's talent isn't that much better than the best of CUSA...

 

[CycloneErik]

I would draft KO if I felt that my team didn't have enough drive-killing false start penalties.

 

[sogocat]

football is simple, to be good you have to be able to run the ball and you have to be able to stop the run

 

[jdoggivjc]

football is simple, to be good you have to be able to run the ball and you have to be able to stop the run

It's even simpler than that - own the trenches. If your O-Line owns the opponent's D-Line, you can both run and pass. If your D-Line owns the opponent's O-Line, your opponent will neither be able to run nor pass on you.

 

[Land Grant]

I think the jury's still out on Herman. There's a lot of talk of "wait until he gets the players he needs." Then someone says "what we have doesn't fit his system." So what does fit his system? Super fast receivers, strong armed think on your feet qbs, big strong fast linemen, a great one two combo at back etc etc. In other words, the same kinds of upgrades that every team wants. The problem is that ISU won't be getting significantly better players until it fields winning teams. If Herman can't do more with less, then we're in a classic Catch-22.

I've been wondering if Herman has been more conservative with the offense than he would be if he had a more "talented" (for lack of a better term) squad. It's got to be tough being the second or third offensive coordinator this offense has seen, so maybe the playcalling has been more simplistic this season in hopes that in year three more advanced formations and play-calls will be used - at least I hope this is the case. There have been some definite flashes of brilliance this season that make me believe that Herman has what it takes to coach in the Big 12/10.

 

[GoShow97]

A precise, accurate, consitant QB goes a long way in any offensive set. Until ISU gets some improvement at QB nothing will change.

 

[Al_4_State]

I think Herman has shown some major improvements between the start of the year and the end of the year in his play calling, but he still struggles to adjust when one part of the offensive completely ***** the bed like our line did this weekend.