ISU @ KU Postgame
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Yup, keep improving and beat KU in the B12 tournament(again), then make our mark at the big dance while KU predictably embarrasses the conference(again).
Twocoach, I have highlighted part of your compliments just to make sure that you realize why people feel they come off like:
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it is just bad wording due to you being so excited for your monumental win...
KU embarrasses the Big 12 in the dance? KU is the only team in the conference to make the Final Four in how long? Also, pretty sure KU has two National Championship appearances in 6 years. Maybe the rest of the Big 12 should make some noise in the tournament.
You have nailed it. But I think a 5-4 team could still be a sweet 16 team and a 7-2 team could be a final four team. Big 12 road games are brutal. So don't hate too much on those of us who see more road losses coming.
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The press only works if it's ran to perfection. Yes we got a couple turnovers off of it, but it seemed like some, and I'll single out Naz specifically, were out of position time and again. KU coughed it up once or twice but caught on pretty fast
After some thought, my analysis of the game:
We played well, but not great. We needed great to beat KU the way they were playing. The defense is primarily where we fell down. We lost their shooters in help and forgot about the trailing shooters in the secondary transition. With that said, we did a reasonable job in keeping KU out of the paint, and that is job #1. We were a little loose with the ball and forced some things, and gave away the ball on turnovers more than we could afford.
As I said though, we played pretty well. Certainly can't fault our effort and intensity. Give KU credit, they are a good young team that is improving, and they hit the shots they needed to hit, and were obviously ready and wanting this game.
The road ahead is tough, but I see our guys as up to the challenge.
We played well, but not great. We needed great to beat KU the way they were playing. The defense is primarily where we fell down. We lost their shooters in help and forgot about the trailing shooters in the secondary transition. With that said, we did a reasonable job in keeping KU out of the paint, and that is job #1. We were a little loose with the ball and forced some things, and gave away the ball on turnovers more than we could afford.
As I said though, we played pretty well. Certainly can't fault our effort and intensity. Give KU credit, they are a good young team that is improving, and they hit the shots they needed to hit, and were obviously ready and wanting this game.
The road ahead is tough, but I see our guys as up to the challenge.
I think regardless of how they finish the regular season that ISU is fully capable of making a deep run in the tourney. They can score a ton and give teams fits in match ups. And they are a team that gets emotionally up for big games. If they can get out of the first two rounds without getting caught overlooking someone then they can do some damage.
After being at the game I can honestly say for Hilton to be at that level the non student fans need to stand up and get into it. Other than that there wasn't a ton of difference. I saw some calls that were bad both ways and a lot of ****** defense from us. The one thing I kept hearing KU fans say even when they were up nearly 20 was "Don't ease up, they can get back into this thing in less than 3 minutes" they seemed to be legitimately worried that we would make a push. Sucks we lost but it was still a memorable trip.
I would like 2 road wins. Maybe we can steal one @ okie st or @ OU. Going 6-3 would be huge.
I just wish we would quit doubling the post and leaving wide open 3's. KU and other teams have not dominated us with their post games, with McKay - lets just play it straight up and defend the 3 point line better. The games we have lost it has been the 3 ball that has killed us. Baylor, Tech and KU.
KU played about as well as they could last night. Makes me feel ok, since ISU played average at best (more likely a C- game) and hung tough.
KU played about as well as they could last night. Makes me feel ok, since ISU played average at best (more likely a C- game) and hung tough.
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we got KUs best game at this point of the year. And my bet is their top or top 2 games for the entire season. Tough to beat any team at home, let alone KU when that happens. KU was up for the big game and so where we.
Good hustle. Need to settle down.
My biggest concern was how MM handled the constant pressure.... IMO it looked like he didn't like it and it negatively affected his game. Hence our hurry on the half court.
Oh well, I do want to win 3 more road games and think we can... calling OU, TX and TCU road wins.
Good hustle. Need to settle down.
My biggest concern was how MM handled the constant pressure.... IMO it looked like he didn't like it and it negatively affected his game. Hence our hurry on the half court.
Oh well, I do want to win 3 more road games and think we can... calling OU, TX and TCU road wins.
They did to us in Lawrence what we did to them in Ames. Difference in score is them making the free throws down the stretch.
KU ran great offense, and Bill Self is a heckuva Coach so you had to expect them to. He was relishing the big game, and his players stepped up.
Considering all of the tweking of the lineup this year has had I like where we are at. These guys will continue to improve.
Naz has to avoid fouling. We need him in the game.
KU ran great offense, and Bill Self is a heckuva Coach so you had to expect them to. He was relishing the big game, and his players stepped up.
Considering all of the tweking of the lineup this year has had I like where we are at. These guys will continue to improve.
Naz has to avoid fouling. We need him in the game.
Scared my kids yelling at the tv on that one. That was a brutal missed call. (and no, we didn't lose because of the refs, just sayin')
I kept yelling call it the same both ways! But that is to be expected. The fact is that if you are going to win at Kansas, you need to play significantly better than them. Their home court is tough, just like ours.
I don't recall seeing two college teams play harder during a regular season game. The play wasn't always pretty, but the effort was outstanding. I think the intensity of the Kansas players brought to the game speaks to the status of where our program is at now.
I don't recall seeing two college teams play harder during a regular season game. The play wasn't always pretty, but the effort was outstanding. I think the intensity of the Kansas players brought to the game speaks to the status of where our program is at now.
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This... we are the thorn that is showing, and KU needs to take care of it. We will have their attention for every game.. more so now (and last night) than ever before.
I felt like we were rebounding pretty well with Kansas, and I looked in the box score and saw we got 17 offensive rebounds(!) to their 12, and we out rebounded them overall 41-38. That was a positive sign.
I think the game was really lost by our guards and their slow rotations to cover KU's three-point shooters. Selden had all the time in the world when he was hitting everything in the second half. You knew those shots were going in when they left his hand.
One thing I've begun to notice more and more is that when our guys drive baseline and then dish the ball to McKay, he usually fumbles it first. Our half court offense doesn't seem to flow as well with him in the game. He makes up for it by through offensive rebounds and by being an intimidating force on defense, though.
I think the game was really lost by our guards and their slow rotations to cover KU's three-point shooters. Selden had all the time in the world when he was hitting everything in the second half. You knew those shots were going in when they left his hand.
One thing I've begun to notice more and more is that when our guys drive baseline and then dish the ball to McKay, he usually fumbles it first. Our half court offense doesn't seem to flow as well with him in the game. He makes up for it by through offensive rebounds and by being an intimidating force on defense, though.
So they lose at Baylor on a late shot, they win at 2nd place WVU.
And yet they are gonna lose all their road games but 1?
Why do fans go to the extremes after a loss?
Pure comedy.
