These are unchartered waters for sure, wow.
Anyone else surprised to see Oklahoma State in the top ten? I mean spencer sanders has shown to be good at times but they lose tylan wallace and some key guys...
ISU #4 in ESPN FPI
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These are unchartered waters for sure, wow.
Anyone else surprised to see Oklahoma State in the top ten? I mean spencer sanders has shown to be good at times but they lose tylan wallace and some key guys...
A few points:
Pre-Season FPI means NOTHING, because there have not been any games played. All 130 FBS teams have the same power rating right now = 0.0.
I will root against Iowa in every game. If they win games - so be it, but I'm not rooting for them.
Oklahoma State was the only team to beat Iowa State in the Regular Season last year, and they beat ISU in Ames 2 years ago. They are a real PITA!
Let's Go State!
Pre-Season FPI means NOTHING, because there have not been any games played. All 130 FBS teams have the same power rating right now = 0.0.
I will root against Iowa in every game. If they win games - so be it, but I'm not rooting for them.
Oklahoma State was the only team to beat Iowa State in the Regular Season last year, and they beat ISU in Ames 2 years ago. They are a real PITA!
Let's Go State!
It does not mean NOTHING. Being rated high pre-season means we have a lot of really productive players returning. That is pretty meaningful. Thanks for trying to drop some knowledge on us, but you missed the mark.
Well, I tried.
I'll go study my College Football 101 Book and take the quiz again later. 
I'll make sure I specifically study the SOS chapter really hard and figure out how teams that have not played any games yet have tougher SOS than other teams that have not played yet either. I'm just a simple boy, so it's hard!
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Careful, your passive aggressive is showing.Well, I tired.
Will McDonald led the FBS in sacks last year and wasn't even a starter. He has put on 10 lbs so far this offseason.
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Took 72 posts into this thread for someone to mention those butt pilgrims from Iowa City. Good! I hope they are a top 15 team when we kick the piss out of them.
It's possible that ISU plays OU 3 times. Regular season, Big 12 Championship, and playoffs (OU and ISU start highly rated and the Big 12 overall is highly rated).
It's not crazy to say we could lose in the regular season, win a Big 12 Championship, and then win a playoff game or *National Championship* versus OU.
But it's still crazy to me!
It's not crazy to say we could lose in the regular season, win a Big 12 Championship, and then win a playoff game or *National Championship* versus OU.
But it's still crazy to me!
I agree that only a handful of blue blood teams can take a loss and still make the playoffs. ISU is not one of them. This is also the biggest reason the playoffs need to be expanded.
But, if we make the CCG, win or lose, we are likely headed to the Sugar bowl. We win and don't make the CFP or we lose and the winner does make the CFP then the contract says we are bringing in 2022 in New Orleans.
I'd take that in a heartbeat.
You only get so many great games per season. I'm still fine with the slow starts. We just need to play well enough to win.
31-7 over UNI
24-14 over Iowa
then start building some momentum to finish the season strong. Peak after Thanksgiving
If Iowa does well and we beat them and it helps our resume, that is a silver lining in a very dark cloud...
No. They will never "let" two B12 teams in, even if it's the most obvious answer.
But, yes, it's technically possible.
Will McDonald led the FBS in sacks last year and wasn't even a starter. He has put on 10 lbs so far this offseason.
10 lbs slower.
We haven't seen many non-blue blood teams make the CFP, period. In the seven years we've had it, Washington, Oregon or Michigan St are the three worst 'brands' to make the field. All three won their conference and had one loss, for the record.
In fact, of the 28 bids over the 7 years, 17 have gone to 1 loss teams. Of those 17, just three went to teams that didn't win their conference - Ohio St in 2016, Alabama in 2017 and Notre Dame in 2020.
On the flip side, only three P5 teams that won their conference but had one loss have been left out - Baylor and TCU in 2014 and Ohio St in 2018. We all remember how the Big XII bungled 2014, but three of the four teams to make the field had one loss, so two were going to get left out no matter what. Similarly, Oklahoma made the field in 2018 along with three undefeated teams, so a one loss conference champion was going to get left out no matter what.
Could a one loss ISU get in with a conference championship? History seems to indicate we have a pretty good shot, particularly considering the Big XII should be much stronger than the ACC and PAC this year.
