Is Purdy Hurt?
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Ok, so I said "average FBS team." If you only count P5 teams as FBS, then yes UNI is bottom 5. If you include G5 teams, which are part of the FBS, then UNI is number 82 out of 128. That's just within the middle third, which I think is reasonable to define as "average." They'd be in the top third of all G5 teams.
People might feel better playing someone like UConn, UTEP, Akron, etc but those are far worse teams than UNI. Louisiana-Monroe is at #130 in this ranking.
It’s not apples to apples but some of this same thing led to Mac getting canned.
Campbell not caring about beating Iowa is my favorite hot take.
Yes, the reigning Big 12 Coach of the Year does not care about his team winning the games on their schedule.
Yes, the reigning Big 12 Coach of the Year does not care about his team winning the games on their schedule.
Oh I'm not arguing with you. I'm actually on your side and am saying that UNI and other top FCS programs would be good teams in the G5.
I get that. A couple people rated my post funny, so I was using your link to explicitly show that it's a solid argument - thanks for your help!
In 2012, Northern Iowa almost beat #12 Wisconsin. They lost 26-21. UNI is a very solid football team and if you keep the game close against them, they can find a way to make it go down to the wire. Just happy we won.
He's the reigning Big 12 Coach of the Year, not the reigning non conference Coach of the Year
While it's a good point, if Campbell wants to be able to ever make CFP (which will be very very tough), he has to be Iowa, plain and simple.
If CMC is something like 56–85 after a decade ISU should go another direction.
Point is valid though--people need to be careful what they wish for if the same general principles have gotten ISU legit success and things like talent and depth have only improved.
I'm totally on board with what you're saying.
Do not underestimate how good UNI is. First of all, they have a good coach so they are always fundamentally sound. In fact, they have usually tackled better than ISU IMO.
Next... go up and down UNI's starting lineup on both sides of the ball.... the size is there, and the talent level at certain spots is just as good or better than ISU. Overall, yes ISU has more talent, but I mean at a spot or two on each side of the ball it's just as good or better.
UNI's defensive backs this year are very good, with lots of experience. They have two interior D linemen that have set different all time UNI weight lifting records this offseason. The one DE, Elerson Smith, is 6'7" and 250 lbs and runs like a deer. I believe he's the one that nailed Purdy and gave UNI 7 pts.
Their OL is bigger than ISU's at every postion along the entire line. I know that doesn't make them better, but gone are the days when the two teams walked onto the field and you could tell by the eye test which team was the FBS school and which one was the FCS school.
Saturday only proved that against a team like that, if you make some mistakes at critical times you definitely risk losing the game, and we definitely made a lot of mistakes, and UNI nearly did win.
A lot of us lived through the Criner years...
...it was as bad as we thought it was.
This isn't popular on here, but I agree with you 100% on this.
I feel like this staff knows we're in deep trouble if Purdy goes down. I know most teams would be, but I feel like ours might be worse than most. I think our #2 and #3 QBs are both coming in next year.
The only thing that makes me feel like this might not be the case is the fact that they moved Easton Dean to TE.... unless they figured he wouldn't be able to beat out Mitchell or Kolar this year.
We also saw the peaks of the CPR era (OSU, @ Tech, Nebraska, etc.)...it wasn't as good as it seemed.
I think ISU's QBs are talented but green which is the case for a lot of other teams out there, and they want to develop Purdy into being more 'multiple' with better pocket presence. That's a tougher QB to prepare for because defenses would have to do more than just keep him there.
There have been far bigger upsets featuring FCS teams in the past few years and the world continued. More importantly, it didn't happen Saturday.
Jesus Christ you’re using a cytwins troll as proof of an asinine statement.
Your micropenis is showing again.
You seem like a really fun person. Can we hang out?
That’s great spin, but not particularly true, and even worse, missing the context of this matchup.
First, the reaction to Saturday is in the context of attempting to determine if Iowa State is a top-20, Big 12 dark horse, not an average FBS team.
Top FCS programs have a lot of disadvantages to even the G5, let alone P5. That is indisputable, and certainly not disputed when the occasional FCS team will knock off an average to bad FBS team (of which Iowa State is not expected to be). It just means the FBS staff did a bad job utilizing their advantages. It also means flukes happen in sports.
Don’t be silly, it’s appropriate to scrutinize.
