INSIDER: Super quick perspective on Leech/Anderson news

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  1. ChrisMWilliams

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    First of all, I had no clue this was coming. Caught me off guard. I was in a meeting, got out of it and my phone had blown up with the news.

    Called around ... sounds like things weren't going well with either. I don't know specifics. Do know neither was going to make an impact this year. Not sure if it was attitude or what. But I'm getting the feeling that this is going to be a better deal for all parties just breaking up now and not delaying the inevitable.

    Doesn't sound like there is any ill-will on the ISU side. Prohm said he will help both guy find landing spots, but I would be surprised if either are at the high-major level.

    Let's all wish them both the best.
     
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    I thought Leech had long term potential. Never understood the Anderson signing.
     
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  3. mjhavlo76

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    If you watched previous team videos with practice and activities, it showed a disinterested Luke Anderson. Body language was telling.. Mercedes Leech kind of surprising and may sting us a little more than the Anderson departure. Confused with the Anderson signing from the get-go to be honest.
     
  4. bradcyclone

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    I could see Leech going the JUCO route and if he succeeds at the JUCO level and be a top JUCO prospect.
     
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    “Disinterested”? How about “a kid who got seriously ill and lost twenty or thirty pounds”? That’s a lot to just bounce right back from.

    I’m always amazed at how people people draw inferences from partial (or no) information. For example, Leech didn’t play in Italy because after his transfer in high school, the Clearing House didn’t approve him as eligible until after the trip. But lots of people missed the latter, and jumped to conclusions.

    Me? I don’t know what happened with these two kids. None of my business, and I’ll wish them well in the future. At the same time, I won’t be surprised if it turns out there are Clayton Custer-type arguments on this board in a few years regarding both of them.
     
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  6. Knownothing

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    Luke Anderson kind of always reminded me of the Corey Johnson signing back in the day. Not sure why it happened but it did and I wish him luck.
     
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    Clanton Custer
     
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  8. mj4cy

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    Never bad to have more scholarship wiggle room.
     
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    Why? He wasn't a huge get, but he wasn't a nobody either. 247 lists K-State, Georgia, Minnesota, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Xavier and Ole Miss offers.
     
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  10. Cydkar

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    Weird that people are confused by a signing of a kid that multiple P5 teams wanted. Weird that we hear about this confusion AFTER the kid doesn't pan out. So weird.
     
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    I'm assuming the timing of both players announcing the day before the game is because they don't want to burn a redshirt thereby increasing their chances of transferring to a better program.
     
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  12. Artic Zone

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    I’m glad ISU has flexibility with scholarships now but these two are up there with Ray Kasongo in terms of recruiting whiffs for this staff.

    Prohm could offer a 1 armed guard and I’d trust him... big men on the other hand this staff is clueless.
     
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    Their 5 year clock is still ticking so they would at best transfer at semester and be eligible the second semester of the following year, unless they JUCO.
     
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    I'm curious how that would work for them, though. It's probably too late to enroll anywhere this semester, so the earliest they can enroll would be January. So even though they don't burn their redshirt this year, I'm guessing the earliest they could play at a D-1 school would be after fall semester 2020 is over (due to the 1-year sit-out requirement), leaving them 3.5 years of eligibility remaining. Is that correct?
     
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    I wouldn't say clueless. Big men are harder to project than guards. Young, Conditt, Jacobson, Lard were all good pick-ups. You are right about Kasongo, though, big whiff. Then again, he was highly ranked out of high school and a ton of schools offered him so they all whiffed too. Its not an exact science. They are definitely better at evaluating guards than post players.
     
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    Did someone say wiggle?
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    Solomon, Lard (when mentally right), Jacobson, Conditt and possibly Foster=Clueless?
     
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  18. Artic Zone

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    gtfo with Foster. Kid isn’t even in college yet.

    Conditt COULD be solid but he averaged 2 ppg. Everyone acting like he’s Anthony Davis can calm down.


    Hit
    Solomon Young
    Michael Jacobson


    TBD
    George Conditt


    Miss
    Simeon Carter
    Merrill Holden
    Jeff Beverly
    Brady Ernst
    Ray Kasongo
    Luke Anderson
    Cameron Lard…I’ll admit this is kinda a hit but he was such a Shíthead ISU asked him to leave….
    Hans Brase… another kid I feel bad for but I don’t know why staff thought he’d work with his aluminum foil knees


    I eagerly await all the people chining in “oh but fred screwed him” or “transfer market is tough”

    shut up. Prohm recruited those guys. They sucked. Doesn’t make him a bad guy or coach. He’s an amazing person and evaluator of guards but he struggles to identify big men talent.
     
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  19. jsb

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    Yes, he recruited them. Some were recruited out of desperation. It’s still his responsibility but I’ll give them more of a break in year 1 and 2. Things seem to be getting better on that front in the last couple of years.
     
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    I read these threads specifically for the hindsight bias.
     
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