If the Drake game doesn't count then....

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  1. LoyalFawker

    LoyalFawker Active Member

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    @JStanz51 @ChrisMWilliams if the NCAA doesn't count this game then can we play some of our freshmen a 5th game and still redshirt them?
     
  2. usedcarguy

    usedcarguy Well-Known Member

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    It most certainly counts. The issue before was that it wouldn't count towards bowl eligibility. Now that we have the required 6 wins it doesn't matter.
     
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  3. LoyalFawker

    LoyalFawker Active Member

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    But as I understand it the NCAA doesn't recognize it a as a game in the eyes of overall record. So it only counts in ISU record books.
     
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  4. guacamole7

    guacamole7 Member

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    Your understanding is incorrect. It counts and I'm not understanding the confusion around it.
     
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  5. bellzisu

    bellzisu Well-Known Member

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    Yes it does count. Not towards bowl game status. How hard is this to understand ?
     
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  6. LoyalFawker

    LoyalFawker Active Member

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    Oh really? And what information are you basing your statement off of? I couldn't even find where in the NCAA rules it said it wouldn't count toward bowl eligibility but we know it won't.
     
  7. CyCrazy

    CyCrazy Well-Known Member

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    It counts
     
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  8. guacamole7

    guacamole7 Member

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    Can you provide any information indicating it won't count?
     
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  9. LoyalFawker

    LoyalFawker Active Member

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    I will refer you to listen to the Staz and Fitz podcast .
     
  10. HoopsTournament

    HoopsTournament Well-Known Member

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    Because they are official.
     
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  11. mtowncyclone13

    mtowncyclone13 Well-Known Member

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    NCAA allowed FBS teams to count a victory against an FCS team toward six-win bowl eligibility if that FCS team had used 90 percent of its allotted scholarship money. The idea behind the rule was to deter FBS schools from playing FCS schools that had no chance to compete with an FBS school.
     
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    They are an FCS level team that does not offer scholarships. If they play well enough they are invited to the FCS playoffs just like UNI.
     
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  13. cyadict

    cyadict Active Member

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    I really doubt Pollard would even consider the game if it wouldn't help our record and boost our bowl possibilities.
     
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  14. CrossCyed

    CrossCyed Well-Known Member

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    The game counts for everything but bowl eligibility because it's non scholarship. The game counts. Not sure what they said on there.
     
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  15. khardbored

    khardbored Well-Known Member

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    #15 khardbored, Nov 21, 2018
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    I can't believe I actually did this.

    Proof:

    Screenshot 2018-11-21 at 8.23.04 PM.png Screenshot 2018-11-21 at 8.24.52 PM.png Screenshot 2018-11-21 at 8.25.36 PM.png

    Drake is a NCAA Division I football program. The fact they are non-scholarship doesn't change that. They don't meet the requirement that counts towards our bowl eligibility, but, as listed, an FBS team may play up to 40% of it's games in a season vs. FCS teams (really, you could play up to 4!)

    It's an NCAA team vs. another NCAA team. The refs will be there under the jurisdiction of the NCAA.

    IT COUNTS!

    (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Football_Bowl_Subdivision#cite_note-JFowler-22

    If you don't like Wikipedia, there are multiple citations in the footnotes.)

    Here's another source - direct from the NCAA - that makes it clear the 90% of avialable scholarship rule for FBS playing an FCS team is only as it relates to bowl eligibility: http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D119.pdf
     
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  16. jdoggivjc

    jdoggivjc Well-Known Member

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    You know what information I’m going from? That I’ve seen enough of JP’s work over the last 15ish years to know he wouldn’t be dumb enough to schedule a game that doesn’t count.
     
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  17. LoyalFawker

    LoyalFawker Active Member

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    I'm glad you found this, that's exactly what I was looking for but couldn't find. Thanks!
     
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  18. Beyerball

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    Stanz and Fitz are incorrect...Neither Pollard or CMC would even consider scheduling this game if it doesnt count...

    It doesnt count toward bowl eligibility that is it. Drake is a NCAA DIV 1 fball school and part of FCS...Not sure what is hard to understand.
     
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  19. spitfyr36

    spitfyr36 Well-Known Member

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    You can schedule up to 4, but only one win counts towards a bowl game.
    I remember KState in 2009 was 6-6 but wasnt bowl eligible because they beat 2 FCS teams.
     
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  20. bellzisu

    bellzisu Well-Known Member

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    But But Stanz and Fritz said it didn't....
     

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