if we are talking about the same play. They player who got trapped in the corner didn't call a TO, but his teammate (I think McBride) under the basket did so.
Huggins, after the game.
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That sounds very modern, very participation trophy approach.
I have worked for GREAT managers who would chew your butt out in public if they felt that would motivate an employee or the bigger group. Good Managers (or coaches) have a feel for the best means to motivate their employees or organizations. ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL.
I have no issue with Huggins calling out his players/team in public. Probably felt that was the best way to get their attention. IMO Huggins is very much like Eustachy. His approach isn't for every player, but sometimes tough coaching gets the job done.
I believe the in bounder called the time out. Not sure of that was McBride or not.
As he called it. The player in the corner (McNeil) actually stepped through the trap and would have been in a good spot to either get fouled or pass.
I think it’s fine that he criticized his players but do it in the locker room and not on live tv we’re you bash your players. He could have done better coaching
Not really sure why Huggins' presser post game is a thing...
For anyone concerned about Huggy and his players. Recruiting is a two way street. They knew what they were getting when they signed on. Huggins seems like the same guy on the sideline stool and when he's in the living room with these families.
If there are issues ... well ... portal's open.
Huggins spoke at a coaches clinic here in Iowa back in 1994, I think? During Floyd's tenure. Been a fan ever since.
I was never a fan of the Cincy Huggins teams, but was a big fan of the Pittsnoggle WV team that made a run to the Final Four. Huggins on the floor with his star, (Kevin Jones, iirc) whose career and future in the game just got shattered, really changed my perception of Huggins. I despise the mugging style they play, but respect the effort and intensity. I also respect that Huggins completely changed their system/strategy after the first season or 2 in the Big 12.
Playing the way they do really only works if everyone buys in and does their job, they don't have the strait up talent to bail out a lack of teamwork. If a player hasn't bought in or has their own agenda the team can't afford to play that guy. I think that's what he was saying, and also why he was saying it. If 4 guys do their job, but one guy doesn't go deep for the inbounds over the top like he was told to, twice, then the play doesn't work and in this case you lose the game.
As a coach who has had players completely disregard what was just talked about in a TO, it is very frustrating. I was actually impressed he was as restrained as he was.
I would bet accountability has been stressed in practices and in private, probably frequently, and at this point in the season if the player he's calling out doesn't do some soul searching he's not going to be there next year.
Playing the way they do really only works if everyone buys in and does their job, they don't have the strait up talent to bail out a lack of teamwork. If a player hasn't bought in or has their own agenda the team can't afford to play that guy. I think that's what he was saying, and also why he was saying it. If 4 guys do their job, but one guy doesn't go deep for the inbounds over the top like he was told to, twice, then the play doesn't work and in this case you lose the game.
As a coach who has had players completely disregard what was just talked about in a TO, it is very frustrating. I was actually impressed he was as restrained as he was.
I would bet accountability has been stressed in practices and in private, probably frequently, and at this point in the season if the player he's calling out doesn't do some soul searching he's not going to be there next year.
Not to sidetrack your full analysis, but you're merging eras -- Pittsnoggle played under Beilein (2004 team did reach Elite 8).
Thank you for pointing that out. Those are literally the only 2 times WV bball made any sort of impression on me, before they joined the conference, and I combined them.
Cross-channeling of the two is easy to do - I knew Pittsnoggle was pre-Huggings, but I could have sworn it was only one season prior, like '07, not '04 (I looked to get my years straight).
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I know nothing about Huggins except we saw him having drinks at the hotel bar in the same Embassy Suites we were staying at when we went to the Pinstripe Bowl In 2011. The Mountaineers were staying at that hotel in Secaucus as they were playing Seton Hall the same day as the bowl game.
That’s my contribution to the thread.
That’s my contribution to the thread.
Huggins has the look of a coach I would hate, but I enjoy listening to him. I don't mind his approach on calling things as he sees it, it can either divide a team or pull them together. He recruits hard-nosed kids that I would anticipate would respond well to stuff like this. Based on reading the WVU boards, it sounds like he does something like this every year but he continues to play the same guys. If you wanna have success with it, you have to send a message that your standard isn't good enough. It's what tj is doing with some players.
If he knows someone isn’t playing D to his expectations, why is he in the game?
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Or he was throwing his arms up in the air bc he was upset they got trapped in the corner after being explicitly told not to.
The guy who was upset only inbounded it to that player. I was there and could hear him complaining to Huggy that he didn't call the timeout.
