Hoiberg's Recruiting

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I'll admit, I know Simeon isn't much more than a cheerleader, but I sure as **** hope he's still here next year. I love watching that kid celebrate on the sideline. Even if the game sucks balls he makes me smile watching those celebrations.

People are complaining about Fred's recruiting when Prohms best recruit is a cheerleader...
 

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Prohm's best recruit is playing at Oak Hill. Tonight sucked but don't be a drama queen

Would it be less dramatic if I said Prohms best recruit to date is a cheerleader? Regardless, Prohms recruiting failure has cost us this year already and next year too. Hopefully they can find a new lineup before next year.
 

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Or you could have capitalized on the momentum and payed Dana Altman 2.5 million after Fred. JP made his bed and Prohm will likely get all five years.

Oregon would have matched it, They just gave him a huge deal this past year.
 

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Oregon would have matched it, They just gave him a huge deal this past year.

Well lets just agree to disagree. Altman wanted out and back to the Midwest. The extension came the next year.
 

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Would it be less dramatic if I said Prohms best recruit to date is a cheerleader? Regardless, Prohms recruiting failure has cost us this year already and next year too. Hopefully they can find a new lineup before next year.

I'd say Holden, Bowie, Young and Long are better than Carter
 

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Look you have to give him 5 years, if you fire him 2 years into the job you probably lose another year or 2 of getting higher end recruits, and having to settle for lower end guys

That would make 4 years in 6, where ISU whiffed in recruiting. You wanna send a program to the bottom more or less go without recruiting for 4 years.

How about ISU try's to find a GREAT coach instead of someone subpar?
 
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I'd say Holden, Bowie, Young and Long are better than Carter

I think you missed the sarcasm, same as you missed the success of this team.

Funny that you brought in Long, who has 30 (0 that matter) or so total minutes to make your point... lol. That speaks volumes to Prohms recruiting.
 

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How about ISU try's to find a GREAT coach instead of someone subpar?

Who would this GREAT coach be? Prohm's record the 4 years prior to coming to ISU was one of the best in the entire country.

The guy from Wichita State?
 
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I think you missed the sarcasm, same as you missed the success of this team.

Funny that you brought in Long, who has 30 (0 that matter) or so total minutes to make your point... lol. That speaks volumes to Prohms recruiting.

Long could be good. He's in a bad spot
 

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Prohm will have had to fill 13 scholarships in 2 years. That's the entire team for those counting at home. He took some chances but we were desperate for bigs and we missed. There wasn't a whole lot available last spring for bigs. Lard still made it, but he likely doesn't save much this season if he was here. Criticize Prohm for other things, but Fred didn't do him any favors in the pipeline besides Babb.
 

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Long could be good. He's in a bad spot

Lol, the spot where he isn't good enough to play any meaningful minutes??

You're serious with this stuff? This isn't football, freshman guards play all the time.
 

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Lol, the spot where he isn't good enough to play any meaningful minutes??

You're serious with this stuff? This isn't football, freshman guards play all the time.

I think he's worse than the guards we currently have at the moment
 

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Prohm and Rhoads seem to share some similarities. Both passionate and good guys, hard workers, have 'some' really good players (or recruits) but just didnt pull in enough quality players to 'complete' their teams. (at this point in time) Key is, can Prohm find better ones ( front court guys, not a Wiggington) going forward. Hopefully something good happens yet with our last 4 scholarships. Arguing over who is more responsible (Hoiberg or Prohm) is meaningless. They both are. Other than Niang, I don't remember Hoiberg developing a 4 year post player, like a Pemsl at Iowa is going to get to do. He had a hard time getting bigs too unless a transfer came along. Think about it....he only had Darian Williams a Juco coming in when he knew he would lose all those seniors (McKay, Nader, Niang).
 

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I think he's worse than the guards we currently have at the moment

Therefore, next year will have worse guard play than this year. And this year has shocked CyTwins about how poorly they've played. You admittedly couldn't fathom losing this many at home.

Prohm and staff need to improve by leaps and bounds to land impact players at all positions. (Not including the exception, wigginton)
 

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Therefore, next year will have worse guard play than this year. And this year has shocked CyTwins about how poorly they've played. You admittedly couldn't fathom losing this many at home.

Prohm and staff need to improve by leaps and bounds to land impact players at all positions. (Not including the exception, wigginton)

I thought we'd lose 3 at home maximum. Wigginton is going to be a stud
 

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Lol, the spot where he isn't good enough to play any meaningful minutes??

You're serious with this stuff? This isn't football, freshman guards play all the time.
Our guards aren't the problem, it's nobody over 6'5 worth playing that is the problem. Lard and Young are young, not everyone can plug holes like Fred. Jakolby was a top 125ish recruit, but he's competing against older top 125 recruits. Babb, Matt, Monte top 125, Naz a 5th year senior 3 year starter, DJ one of the best JUCO PG's. The fact you can't figure that out doesn't bode(clone) well for your arguments.
 

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Who would this GREAT coach be? Prohm's record the 4 years prior to coming to ISU was one of the best in the entire country.

The guy from Wichita State?

I think he lived and succeeded
Who would this GREAT coach be? Prohm's record the 4 years prior to coming to ISU was one of the best in the entire country.

The guy from Wichita State?

Hmmm.... the way I look at it, he went to the NCAA one time with Wichita St. - his first year - possibly banking on the talent of the previous coach? Sound familiar? So that's great that he had a "great program" for the mid-majors. I, for one, have bigger and better hopes for ISU basketball. And looking at the talent we had coming into this year that's been squandered, I definitely look at him as the problem.
 

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