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Has this ever happened before?

ruxCYtable said:
No offense but pretty sure it's not all that unusual.
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If it's not that unusual, can you show me a stat sheet to prove it?
Most teams will have lead for at least a couple seconds (even if it was 2-0 or something at the very beginning of the game) but I'm still looking for a team that lead for exactly 0.0 seconds for the entire game, but still won the game.
 
Against Minnesota when Johnny was coach. Don't remember the year, sometime in the 80s. ISU was behind the entire game and won it on a last second shot in Williams arena.
 
somecyguy said:
Against Minnesota when Johnny was coach. Don't remember the year, sometime in the 80s. ISU was behind the entire game and won it on a last second shot in Williams arena.
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I'm trying to find a box score for that game but I'm struggling.
 
andybernard said:
Judging by my 1 hour of research, it is pretty unusual, because I can't find one. I'm talking zero leads throughout 40 minutes of play. There are plenty of buzzer beaters after the clock expires, but that team always has had a lead at some point throughout the game.
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Think about how many basketball games are played every year and multiply that by even 50 years. Thousands, 10's of thousands of games or more across all levels. It's happened before.
 
somecyguy said:
Against Minnesota when Johnny was coach. Don't remember the year, sometime in the 80s. ISU was behind the entire game and won it on a last second shot in Williams arena.
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Again, it may be a last second shot, but was that the absolute last action of the game, time expired prior to basket and other team didn't even get to touch the ball. If there was .1 seconds left, that does not meet criteria. Plenty of games end on buzzer beaters, but to never lead for the entire 40:00 of game clock and win is the question.
 
3TrueFans said:
Think about how many basketball games are played every year and multiply that by even 50 years. Thousands, 10's of thousands of games or more across all levels. It's happened before.
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Listen. I get it. It sounds like something that has probably happened before. All I'm asking for is a little bit of proof. I'm doing my best to find a time that this happened, but apparently it is a lot more unusual than many of you think.
 
somecyguy said:
Against Minnesota when Johnny was coach. Don't remember the year, sometime in the 80s. ISU was behind the entire game and won it on a last second shot in Williams arena.
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Looked it up, we did not beat Minnesota in the 1980s, home or away.
 
On the ESPN box score, they list Monte's made shot at 0:01 left in the 2nd half. Obviously that's not quite right, but I wonder if for "box score" purposes, everything with less than 1 second has to be at 0:01. If so, it's statistically impossible to win while never leading. But this is just speculation.
 
3TrueFans said:
Think about how many basketball games are played every year and multiply that by even 50 years. Thousands, 10's of thousands of games or more across all levels. It's happened before.
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How many true buzzer beaters are there every year? (Actual buzzer beaters where the ball goes in for the win, and the clock hits zero when the ball is in the air).
Now, of those buzzer beaters, how many of those winning teams lead for 0.0 seconds for the entire game?

I'm sure it's happened before, but I would love to know when the last time was.
 
andybernard said:
Listen. I get it. It sounds like something that has probably happened before. All I'm asking for is a little bit of proof. I'm doing my best to find a time that this happened, but apparently it is a lot more unusual than many of you think.
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It's probably unusual, but I think the odds are solidly in favor of it having happened at least once in the history of basketball.
 
khardbored said:
On the ESPN box score, they list Monte's made shot at 0:01 left in the 2nd half. Obviously that's not quite right, but I wonder if for "box score" purposes, everything with less than 1 second has to be at 0:01. If so, it's statistically impossible to win while never leading. But this is just speculation.
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Interesting. I wonder if that really is the case or if they just messed this one up.
 
Going to be hard to find because shots in this situation are recorded as .01 seconds for clarity purposes. Not sure where that "stat" would be kept since most stat organizations would just keep the box score showing the .01.

I bet a call to the advanced stat companies might yield a better answer.
 
Looked just like a recreation of Kenny Chery's bucket (space creation and all) that ended the Baylor game in Waco...except this time the Clones were on the shooting/winning side.

Awesome play by Monte
 
8bitnes said:
Looked it up, we did not beat Minnesota in the 1980s, home or away.
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Ronnie Virgil inbound play with under 3 seconds left. Minnesota player threw an inbound pass that hit the scoreboard giving us the ball. Under their basket the inbound pass went to "instant offense" and he tapped it in for the win. Late 80's I would guess.
 
mtowncyclone13 said:
Going to be hard to find because shots in this situation are recorded as .01 seconds for clarity purposes. Not sure where that "stat" would be kept since most stat organizations would just keep the box score showing the .01.

I bet a call to the advanced stat companies might yield a better answer.
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****! So you're telling me that this last hour and a half of searching was for nothing!? Any idea who I might ask? I usually don't get much into statistics, but this one struck me as pretty amazing and now I'm really curious.
 
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