Boy I wish I could find Bill Engvall's take on this online right now
Sadly, I should be doing something at work other than typing up a quote from a comedy show...
Grade school "whippins"
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Boy I wish I could find Bill Engvall's take on this online right now
Sadly, I should be doing something at work other than typing up a quote from a comedy show...
But typing up a post about typing up a quote from a comedy show is a-ok.Boy I wish I could find Bill Engvall's take on this online right now
Sadly, I should be doing something at work other than typing up a quote from a comedy show...
Are you kidding me, Geronimus? Hasn't someone told you that success is simply feeling good about yourself?
The corporal punishment argument can be solved in a very simply way.
I leave you with this question: Are kids better behaved today, in a time when corporal punishment has been declared taboo? Or were they better behaved back in the 1950s when corporal punishment was the norm?
If you can honestly say kids are better behaved today, more power to you. When I was in grade school in the late 1950s (the time period in which I received my share of spankings, paddlings, whatever you want to call them), juvenile deliquency was when you got caught throwing snowballs at cars.
I leave you with this question: Are kids better behaved today, in a time when corporal punishment has been declared taboo? Or were they better behaved back in the 1950s when corporal punishment was the norm?
If you can honestly say kids are better behaved today, more power to you. When I was in grade school in the late 1950s (the time period in which I received my share of spankings, paddlings, whatever you want to call them), juvenile deliquency was when you got caught throwing snowballs at cars.
So what you're saying is that 50 years ago kids never did anything bad? Interesting theory. Do you have anything that might back that up other than "I was in grade school then so I know."?
I disagree that the argument can be "solved" in this way. You are citing anecdotal evidence at best, and your sample is your grade school...not exactly representative.
It's fine if you believe it to be true, but I'd need to see some empirical evidence before I came to that conclusion.
I could also say that the presence of more corporal punishment in the 50s has led to more domestic violence, drug use, and child abuse, because that's what I've seen in their offspring's generation. That may or may not be true...but I'd have to see data on it first, and even then it's correlation at best.
I find carrying a gun as a good detterent for the kids acting up. They get out of line, all I have to do is **** it.
He says juvenile delinquency back then was throwing snowballs at cars, implying that that was the worst thing kids do. Which is obviously not true. We're not talking high level reasoning here.
I took it as many times that was the worst being done. Probably was in his town (if a small Iowa town)? Or, gasp, some hyperbole?
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Got it, so what you thought he was saying was "Juvenile delinquency back then was getting caught throwing snowballs at cars, of course we also did things worse than that too."
Thanks for explaining it to the "touchy feely" crowd.
Certainly some of my evidence is purely anecdotal, but my guess would be that statistically, the crime rate has gone up exponentially over the past four or five decades compared to what it was in the 1950s and 1960s when parents regularly used corporal punishment.
I wasn't brought up in Iowa, but in a midwestern town of around 25,000. The community has grown to around 45,000 today. I can honestly tell you that there probably wasn't a square inch of pavement that I hadn't driven my bicycle over when I was a kid. At night during the summer, my Junior High School buddies and I would regularly walk down town (which was probably two miles from the neighborhood I was brought up in). And my parents never worried for our safe keeping. Why? Because there wasn't such thing as a gang in the town. To anyone's knowledge, there weren't drugs in town. I don't know if we had ever had a murder...ever! An armed robbery? Never heard of one there. A rape or a mugging? Unheard of.
I still have an older brother and a younger sister there, in addition to a number of high school friends. My brother and sister have told me horror stories about some of the things going on there today. A good friend of mine told me a story when I was back home maybe 10 or 12 years ago about how a police cruiser stopped by their house one Friday night prior to a high school football game and literally drove his daughter to the football game that night. Why? Because a rumor had spread throughout the community during the week prior to the football game that a gang in town was going to shoot a high school cheerleader at the game that night. His daughter was a cheerleader. I'm talking a midwestern town of 45,000 not Chicago or St. Louis or Memphis.
Again, if you can with a straight face tell me kids aren't doing things today that would have been unheard of 30 and 40 years ago, you certainly have got a better sense of humor than I do.
So you're dumping all of the problems of the youth of today on not spanking them enough? I'm confused what you're trying to imply here.
