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[Clonefan32]

Good lord. Does anyone want to play here?

You get free college and some cool gear....? Can't hurt with the ladies either...? Anyone...?

 

[Sigmapolis]

Everybody is always so quick to try and say what type of school we are. Honestly we are neither. Football only went 7-6 last year. To be football or basketball school, you have to be a national powerhouse. I don’t think either program has had enough success nationally to claim that title. Especially football.. just my opinion though.

This is all true.

Historically, however, the traditional Iowa State thing to do was to look at our atrocious football program and our appreciable success in basketball (e.g., some of the Orr era, the birth of "Hilton Magic" during his tenure, the late 90s with Floyd and Larry, the Fred era, 3/4 of the first four Prohm teams) and declare ourselves a "basketball school" by default. That is our hill to die on. I think that mindset permeates the fan base.

Our basketball program has some history and personalities associated with it. The football program...? Some, increasingly yes, but not so much historically.

Therefore, I think we react more emotionally to our basketball program being bad or good than we do to our football program. A bad basketball team that loses at Hilton cuts much closer to the heart for the identity of our fans as Cyclones.

 

[Statefan10]

This is why I was really bummed about Grill leaving. Not that he was a can't miss guy, but he was a guy, and I had serious doubts about our ability to replace what he would bring next year.

Jokes on you when he comes back next year with TJ

 

[thatguy]

Good lord. Does anyone want to play here?

who knew Xavier Foster was coming to ISU over Iowa was because of immediate playing time. Nice guys finish last. Sorry Steve.

 

[Hoggins]

Good lord. Does anyone want to play here?

No.

 

[CyTwins]

We're going to get another Hans Brase and Jeff Beverley aren't we..

What could have been with Brase. They really liked him when they got him and he would have been a big addition if he could have stayed healthy. Obviously that was a big if and he didn't stay healthy

 

[madguy30]

This upcoming season will probably be the most pointless season in Iowa State basketball history.

And among the worst.

Following this past season, that's quite a task.

 

[madguy30]

Playing out the hypothetical --

I would rather we have sports next year because the football team is likely to be very good even if the basketball team is going to be an eysore.

Football is more important than basketball. I know clinging to Hilton and us being a "basketball school" while our football program was a goat rodeo for decades is just the standard Iowa State thing to do, but things are different now.

I would gladly watch the basketball program go down in flames, Prohm get fired, and have to start over in exchange for an 12-2 football season. Very gladly.

Even just a shot at that -- which we have an outside one -- is worth torching basketball.

If I can feel safe pumping gas by the fall I wouldn't care how any form of fall/winter sports season goes if they happen.

 

[GetAwesome]

Kudos to our royal Publisher-in-Chief for the classic last-name-only thread title.

 

[Thompsonclone]

I like our chances with Turner.

You shouldn’t. He won’t be a Cyclone.

 

[Scott34]

I'll say it again, and a bunch of you will dislike it and argue it, but we are going to take whomever will come here. We won't be able to pick and choose.

U mean STEVE cant pick and choose.

 

[Cyforce]

This is why I was really bummed about Grill leaving. Not that he was a can't miss guy, but he was a guy, and I had serious doubts about our ability to replace what he would bring next year.

I'd trade the three we lost for a starting PG. Adding a wing is just a bonus.

 

[awd4cy]

10-22 season incoming.

 

[greenec31]

You shouldn’t. He won’t be a Cyclone.

Do you know something or just a feeling?

 

[CYphyllis]

Keeping Prohm around for this lame duck year is going to absolutely tank the program.

 

[Cy$]

Good lord. Does anyone want to play here?

I dont

 

[Thompsonclone]

Do you know something or just a feeling?

Somebody decently in the know said it’s not trending in a positive direction for Iowa State for Aiken and Turner.

 

[BryceC]

I'd trade the three we lost for a starting PG. Adding a wing is just a bonus.

I’d trade the three we lost for good players. That doesn’t appear to be happening.

 

[ForeverIowan]

Somebody decently in the know said it’s not trending in a positive direction for Iowa State for Aiken and Turner.

Brutal. Just brutal. Prohm at a minimum needs to get a couple high level sit out transfers to save his job. The high impact grad transfer market is drying up.

 

[BryceC]

Keeping Prohm around for this lame duck year is going to absolutely tank the program.

I actually think keeping him this year makes sense. Who would you hire and how would they recruit in the middle of a pandemic? My fear is that we keep him after next year for financial reasons if this season shapes up like it might. That’s what would absolutely bury the program.