Over the last 20 years, the AL Central has been in 5 WS and won one, the NL East has been in 6 and won 3. Go back one more year and you can add the CWS victory to the AL Central total. Advantage to the NL East for sure, but not that out of whack.
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Omg I forgot that lasted that long. During that time I thought it was Herk's job was run things into the ground and force a move!
Who left that should have stayed? Hosmer got 8 years 144 mil to be awful for the Padres. Cain got 80 million and did not play well in Milwaukee. Cueto got $130 mil from the Giants for one elite season. Zobrist got 50 million for 1 elite season and then didn't even give them 2 more complete seasons worth of games.
It's perplexing. Salvy is still on the team, but the rest of those guys are long retired and didn't do much after they left. Yordano was killed in the car accident.
And these folks, I think, are unaware that KC was in the post-season in 2024 and above .500 last season.
Guess it depends on where you draw the line on small market, but the Cards amd DBacks have won since then. As have the Marlins. Miami is a large city but seems to have a smaller fanbase for baseball, so not sure how you want to count that.
A fluke injury of Alex Gordon crashing into Moose hurt the 2016 season, but they were still around .500 for that season and the next. The bottom fell out the next season. However, they had an overall competitive window of about 5 years that peaked with back-to-back WS appearances and a title. That's pretty good for a small market team.
While they could pay out more money than they do, their biggest issues have been they have been slow to join the analytics revolution, and their scouting and development has been suspect at best. The previous GMs old boy network hamstrung this club, and they haven't completely purged all of it for whatever reason.
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Man Herk had the worst GM job in sports hands down. Has to begin the process of replacing Brett, goes all in in '93 (Gaetti, Gagne, Felix Jose, David Cone) and has them in position to make the playoffs in '94... and the strike happens. After that it was strip it down to the studs because we have no money.
That whole post-strike era for the Royals was mostly a blackhole in my memory. I even went to a game in the summer of '96 with some friends, too. I do remember during the game they announced, "Now batting, Les Norman" and one of the guys I was with shouted out, "Who the hell is Les Norman"'. Got a chuckle from the tens of fans sitting in our area.
There is only so much juice to squeeze.
Let’s say they fix their kauffnann problem and all of a sudden they are playing in the Taj Mahal of baseball stadiums. How much do you think that would increase their payroll? 10 million per year? 20? Even at that they are barely in the top half of the league.
There is only one way to build a contender in KC, build through the draft and that wouldn’t change at all with a new stadium or not.
Perez is a possible HOF and was the only one worth paying and they have clearly taken care of him.
I just want recent examples of who the Royals have let walk that they should have brought back? Damon was damn near 25 years ago. Beltran was the Royals biggest **** up and that eras dead and gone.
This current regime has:
Bought out all of BWJ's arbitration even though they didn't have to.
Bought out all of Garcia's arbitration years.
Bought out all but 1 year of Ragan's arb years based on a 1/2 season.
At one point Carlos Beltran, Johhny Damon, and Jermain Dye were all patrolling the outfield for KC at the same time.
1994 On a Thursday night I went down to watch them sweep the 1st place chisox for like the 10th straight win. Stadium was packed on Thursday. Then the season was over like a week or two later. So depressing to remember those times.
The Royals struggled for years and years and years primarily because they replaced Mr. K with the cheap-o Glass family. That and because the league made it almost impossible for small market teams to compete with the regional TV set up. Not to mention the sheer number of idiotic trades the franchise made (in part because of the Glass family’s cheapness).
They don’t need to move to the national league (lol)
They don’t need to move to the national league (lol)
Its time for a new park. The team needs new energy. I envy that area around Wrigley Field. Id give anything for KC to have something similar. Bars and restaurants around the park would be awesome.
All is true, the Glass family was cheap, but moving to the National League would have brought in larger crowds of fans from the Cubs and Cardinals 18 times a year. Look at those series through the years and the attendance for those games. The Royals passed on that for 6 game each year with Yanks and RS, instead of 18 with the Cards and Cubs. Totally stupid decision.
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I’m sure a new park would be great, and if they get some KS or Nashville money it might happen. Just don’t kid yourself that it’s gonna do anything about the payroll of the team.
Royals have moved on from the Overland Park site.
still think they should stay but it's clear they're going to keep pushing till they get some funding to allow them to move. This site would be better than Kansas or out in the burbs, so
