Disappointing season

Fall Creek

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TJ needs to learn how to run set plays and get an easy basket when were struggling on offense and not just have players throw up 3s constantly.
Our offense was terrible all year, so dependent on isolation and great individual performances. Honestly this is one of the worst passing teams I've ever seen. Over and over again we looked like had never seen a double team before when entering to the post. Just weird that this team had so much talent but couldn't do some basic things.
 

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CF is the Fox News of Iowa State sports. It's all sunshine and spin all the time. If not he loses access to the team insiders.

I hopped on Twitter and it's already "hey guys if you want good players better donate!" guilt already.

I don't think there's a single thing they could say that would make you happy.

Also, it's literally Blum's job to raise money.
 

Fall Creek

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Kelderman by all accounts is a nice kid but when you lose one starting point guard and your only option is to play a walk on then either your bench talent is weak or you have done a poor job of developing the next man in.
Totally agree. Nojus should have been able to beat out Kelderman and play significant minutes. Not a good sign, sometimes I wonder if TJ is too stubborn with what he expects of players and that his program philosophy does not effectively develop younger players. We've had great recruiting classes the past few years but the only homegrown players TJ has playing this year are Milan and Lipsey. The dependence on transfers can't be the only way to develop the roster.
 

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Pessimists die earlier, but we've evolved too far for them to not die early enough.

Glass half full, glass half empty. You give me 2 drops of beer and it's full enough for me.

If it's 1, it might not be enough.
 

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Totally agree. Nojus should have been able to beat out Kelderman and play significant minutes. Not a good sign, sometimes I wonder if TJ is too stubborn with what he expects of players and that his program philosophy does not effectively develop younger players. We've had great recruiting classes the past few years but the only homegrown players TJ has playing this year are Milan and Lipsey. The dependence on transfers can't be the only way to develop the roster.
I think TJ is nailing it perfectly. If you can recruit one, at best two, high school players a year that end up being contributors at some point in their career you are doing well, and you fill in immediate needs with transfers. Welcome to the new era of college basketball.
 
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I think TJ is nailing it perfectly. If you can recruit one, at best two, high school players a year that end up being contributors at some point in their career you are doing well, and you fill in immediate needs with transfers. Welcome to the new era of college basketball.
We really needed BRE this year. Our interior players are slow and bad defensively.
 

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Have sharp break his hand and miss 2 months, have roberts get pneumonia, miss 2 games and not be right for about 3 more, have cryer fight an injury for most of the conference season and then just be pretty much completely off the team the last month and have uzan injure his groin and either not play or be 50% for the critical home stretch. Where do you think houston would be? Yes injuries happen to everyone and it's part of the game but to say we didn't have more injuries to critical people than most this year is ignorant.
I coulda revived every one of them, if I wanted to.

Didn't want to.
 

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Disappointing finish, especially considering how this season started. But in the grand scheme of Iowa State basketball, it’s well above average. TJ has increased expectations to to the point a round of 32 exit is disappointing - which is a very good thing.

Still sucks the way it ended. Hopefully we learn from it, make changes, and can be more consistent in the big, important games next year.
 
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Lipsey seemingly was hurt all year, played through a broken thumb and significantly hurt for the final few. Gilbert hurt 1st conference game and only got worse as the year went on. Jones was ill and slowed down for a couple weeks there. Milan missed a chunk of time with a broken hand. It was a lot to go through in the conference season.
That is just Tamin being Tamin. You cannot play as hard as he does and throw your body around with out caution and think he is going to stay healthy. What this team needed was for Nojus to step up; however, that never happened. Iowa State needed Nojus as an insurance policy for injuries.
 

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After being in the top 10 pretty much the entire length of the season I would say it’s super disappointing to finish fifth with big 12 and to get our ass kicked by the middle of the pack SEC team in the round of 32.

Other than that, hopefully we can get a couple players here and there and find a way to fix our offense from being stagnant. That is 100% or Achilles’ heel.
Hopefully we can get Jefferson some help anticipating/recognizing the double team.
 

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You are remembering the Gilbert from early in the season, not the one that was a turnover machine once teams figured out to let him drive and then stop him from getting to the hoop. Without a doubt we were a better team with him, but he was also part of the problem with his turnovers before he got hurt.
Im remembering the Gilbert before he was originally injured, which happened in the first conference game.

He couldn’t move well from that point on. He couldn’t generate turnovers and get out in transition like he was used to. He lost a lot of explosiveness.

Teams figured out how to deal with hobbled Gilbert, and he got frustrated. He only became part of the problem when he originally injured the groin. Unfortunately that’s been most of the season.
 

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Totally agree. Nojus should have been able to beat out Kelderman and play significant minutes. Not a good sign, sometimes I wonder if TJ is too stubborn with what he expects of players and that his program philosophy does not effectively develop younger players. We've had great recruiting classes the past few years but the only homegrown players TJ has playing this year are Milan and Lipsey. The dependence on transfers can't be the only way to develop the roster.
I have been thinking the same way. ISU got three baskets in total against Ole Miss from the last three recruiting classes.
 
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