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Does anyone really care about these types of statistics anymore? They seem even more irrelevant in this truncated abortion of a season where there is absolutely no overlap in common opponents.

Our defense sucked for 4 games and then looked better against the final 2. That being said, the final two offenses were flawed.

I think most Oregon fans see potential greatness in the defense. It’s just a matter of when the proverbial light bulb turns on.

I think the Vegas line is accurate. Iowa State should be a slight favorite.

Go to a B1G forum somewhere and you'll likely find out they're REALLY important.

Until the Rose Bowl when all that time off after all of the B1G teams 'beat up on each other' takes hold.
 
Does anyone really care about these types of statistics anymore? They seem even more irrelevant in this truncated abortion of a season where there is absolutely no overlap in common opponents.

Our defense sucked for 4 games and then looked better against the final 2. That being said, the final two offenses were flawed.

I think most Oregon fans see potential greatness in the defense. It’s just a matter of when the proverbial light bulb turns on.

I think the Vegas line is accurate. Iowa State should be a slight favorite.
Yes and no. The stats for ISU (not ranking) are more useful because we've had a "more normal" season. For UO, I'm not trusting the numbers...I'm agreeing with you and trusting the line. My sense is that our defense is better enough than yours to warrant being a slight favorite.
 
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I’m not particularly worried about how good Oregon’s corners are. We have one good wideout and a couple of serviceable ones. I’m more interested in how their linebackers and safeties match up on our tight ends and Breece. I know their safeties are good, but they’re also aggressive so it will be interesting to see if that pays off for them or if our size advantage with our tight ends will wreck havoc for them.
Our CBs have been better than our Safeties this year on the whole. Jamal Hill obviously had a huge game with the 2 picks as we play a Nickel Safety rather than a Nickel Corner.

Noah Sewell will stand out on the field at LB due to his size/speed. He'll make a play and then be out of alignment for the next. It's also possible we get one our better coverage LBs back for his first game of the season in this one. I think it comes down to our ability to get Purdy on the ground or throw it away enough that we can limit drives and get off the field on 3rd down. If you want a LB to focus on though I'd go with Mase Funa. If he has a big game it likely means others are having big games too by just doing their job.
 
We didn’t see much of Kene in the CCG. I would bet that changes against the Ducks. No one is talking about him but that guy can slice open your throat in a heart beat.
 
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Does anyone really care about these types of statistics anymore? They seem even more irrelevant in this truncated abortion of a season where there is absolutely no overlap in common opponents.

Our defense sucked for 4 games and then looked better against the final 2. That being said, the final two offenses were flawed.

I think most Oregon fans see potential greatness in the defense. It’s just a matter of when the proverbial light bulb turns on.

I think the Vegas line is accurate. Iowa State should be a slight favorite.

Final two games were against California and USC...

California:
  • Rushing Offense #102
  • Passing Offense: #101
USC
  • Rushing Offense: # 120
  • Passing offense: #13
Also, note that USC had three interceptions in their game against Oregon. Easy to see why the Oregon defense looked better the last two games.
 
Kedon Slovis has played 2 games against Oregon and has thrown 6 INTs.

Since Pete Carroll left, we own Los Angeles.

The thing I will continually go back to in the Cal and Oregon State losses are that the offense/QB did not make the plays that were there. I know the Defense has a lot to do with that, but when you watch the film its clear that guys were schemed wide open and the QB couldn't find them. If Shough plays better in those games, the Defense looks better by virtue of not playing so many snaps because the offense didn't give the ball back right away.
 
We didn’t see much of Kene in the CCG. I would bet that changes against the Ducks. No one is talking about him but that guy can slice open your throat in a heart beat.
We also barely saw Milton until the third quarter for some reason too. I like the heart of Akers, but Milton just does everything Akers does better than Akers does (on offense, not Special teams). I don’t understand why we had him out so much in the first half and I don’t think Milton got even an offensive snap until midway through the third.
 
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We also barely saw Milton until the third quarter for some reason too. I like the heart of Akers, but Milton just does everything Akers does better than Akers does (on offense, not Special teams). I don’t understand why we had him out so much in the first half and I don’t think Milton got even an offensive snap until midway through the third.
I know he’s been hurt but Milton is due for one of those massive, momentum shifting gainers
 
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Final two games were against California and USC...

California:
  • Rushing Offense #102
  • Passing Offense: #101
USC
  • Rushing Offense: # 120
  • Passing offense: #13
Also, note that USC had three interceptions in their game against Oregon. Easy to see why the Oregon defense looked better the last two games.

You really can’t really look at Cal’s stats. They had the most experience on offense coming into the season for the PAC 12 North and basically had their entire oline contact traced out of games except for the Ducks. They were probably the most impacted team in the country being in Berkeley.
 
I just watched some highlights of Iowa State and that front just entices you to run the ball. I hear it has different rules for the backend compared to a traditional stack defense. I will be interested to see how Moorehead attacks it.

We have some D-linemen that are really good at eating up multiple blockers and are comfortable with doing so. They do a good job of freeing up our LBs to plug gaps and play downhill.

Teams that are committed to long slow drives churning out 3-4 yard gains have been dangerous to us in past seasons, but our defensive players have been much better disciplined this year. Having depth and fresh bodies have been some of the best things Campbell and Heacock have done since arriving here. Both have enabled our defense to play much faster. I have seen more goal line stands and snuffed 3rd and shorts than I ever thought possible.

I haven't watched much Duck football this year, so I need to check out some footage. Your team speed from previous years always stuck out to me.

Glad a bunch of Oregon fans came over here to visit. We appreciate the chatter from a good fan base.
 
Do teams line up in double TE end sets with a fullback ever? Seems like making that defense play in a box would be the antidote.
Everybody thinks that would be an easy approach, but it’s not that simple. Since this defense was implemented we have played Iowa twice. Iowa is built for that and has had lots of success running the ball with that personnel against the “good” defenses in the Big 10. They averaged <3 ypc.
 
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Dungeness crab is certainly the signature food of Oregon IMHO. It doesn't have the cachet of king crab, but I think it's better. It's not as rich and sweet as king. Berries are also big, along with hazelnuts, formerly known as filberts. And as mentioned, Oregon Pinot Noir is generally spectacular. If you're a beer drinker you'd better like a good IPA, because it's rampant in Oregon, though not my favorite. I think Rogue Dead Guy Ale is the best beer brewed in the state.

As for Larry Scott, he has fleeced the Pac-12. I don't get what the presidents see in him. The Pac-12 network is a total joke.
You can buy Rogue Dead Guy Ale in Des Moines and some surrounding bars. It’s pretty good.
 
Everybody thinks that would be an easy approach, but it’s not that simple. Since this defense was implemented we have played Iowa twice. Iowa is built for that and has had lots of success running the ball with that personnel against the “good” defenses in the Big 10. They averaged <3 ypc.

Yeah, I looked up the Iowa stats already. On Scoopduck some were saying it basically becomes a 3-4 defense with one of the OLBs at safety depth against big sets.

In fact, a coach said the like wider splits and trip sets to get another DB out there in order to run.
 
Yes, I know UT had their network prior to the PAC-10/16 talks, I'm aware of that. The conversation at the time was that the only way UT would stay in the Big-12 was if they were allowed to keep the UT network and not share those revenues.

OK, that I agree with. BUT, the other part of the conversation was that all Tier 1 and Tier 2 revenues were shared equally from there on. Before that, teams got a bigger portion of the revenue for more TV appearances. Up until then, it was an almost yearly vote to try for equal revenue with only UT, NU, ATM, OU voting against. When you think about it, that $15M that Texas was getting from the LHN is pretty small vs the bigger ESPN and Fox packages for first and second tier rights...especially when all the other schools were able to market their third tier rights on their own. A school like Nebraska wouldn't have gotten $15M, but it might have been worth 8-10. I'm guessing they are regretting their decision about now.
 
I just watched some highlights of Iowa State and that front just entices you to run the ball. I hear it has different rules for the backend compared to a traditional stack defense. I will be interested to see how Moorehead attacks it.
Yeah - it's a unique animal.. First tried (and made successful) at ISU. I think they even call it the 'ISU Cloud' now. I remember hearing broadcasters mention a couple of times that some big-time schools came to ISU to get info about it (and even at least one NFL team). We have guys on D that are "max effort" every play. I think if we had guys that might "rest" on a play or two, we'd be vulnerable, but that's not the kind of team we have.

Basically, we really turned the tables on the Big XII with it. You don't see teams scoring 40-50 points on us.

There are still frustrations at times, but overall, the D is usually very sound in positioning and tackling.
 
Brief search stirred up this. Not near the traffic we do but it's something.

https://ducksattack.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=1bc47f7e133312d871d4772ece215209


This was an interesting comment I found: Why would anyone be bummed to play us? Oregon is the premier West Coast team. Doesn't matter if our ranking is lower than usual. A win over us is always a quality win.

The one thing I found interesting in reading the thread there regarding what they know about ISU is that they don't really seem to know much about ISU. A few people said ISU is good, and a few people mentioned Purdy. What they didn't even mention is the fact that Breece Hall is the leading rusher in college football, and tied for 2nd in TD for a RB, and an actual Heisman candidate (outside shot but still). Kind of weird to me since this year he's actually been more high profile nationally than Purdy.

Will be interesting to see the matchup of our WR/TE considering we have 4 WR and TE that are 6'6" and above, and a few more at 6'2" and 6'3"
 
That game was brutal. Our teams have always started the season slow and in the past have peaked toward the end of October. The first couple of games, we tend to run very vanilla and Purdy has not used his legs much at all the last couple years at the beginning of the season. We lost our two receivers with the most receptions last season and as a previous poster mentioned, Charlie Kolar was out for the first game recovering from hernia surgery.

So basically we had a new receiving core and it was later reported, that there were Covid issues leading up to the game so many players were not able to get in the reps before that first game. Louisiana came out with tight man to man coverage, our receivers were not able to get much separation and we didn't have any of our go-to targets from last year to fall back on. There were some early drops and it led to an ugly game. Louisiana gets credit too. They are a solid team and executed their game plan very well.

Our team has been a resilient bunch this year but we have been our worst enemy with special teams and inopportune penalties in the red zone. Our teams under campbell have been very good when it comes to penalties. But there have been several times when we get in the red zone and have first and goal, we end up getting false starts. Earlier in the season we had a lot of penalties for not having enough or too many guys on the line of scrimmage. Most of these have come when our offense is moving the ball and killed momentum. And special teams have given up huge plays (kick/punt returns, shanked punts, missed fg, botched punts) at times where we had just gotten the momentum. It has totally deflated us at times. Since that first game, we have fortunately done a much better job of recovering through adversity.

If you want to watch a game where ISU plays a complete game against a solid opponent, watch the West Virginia game. West Virginia statistically has a top 5 defense and at the time was around top 25 offense. We played a complete game and it was total annihilation where we did not let up and kept the momentum throughout. The OU/TX games were probably C+/B- games but we were able to find ways to keep the games close and have a chance to win at the end.

Hopefully we will have a well officiated game where there aren't any major injuries on both sides and may the best team win! Thanks for all of the ducks posts. It has been great reading your perspectives.

Thank you for the detailed info. I’ve been going through the games chronologically, and it’s been a very impressive season on both sides of the ball.

Let us hope that Pac-12 refs will not be involved, because at that point a well officiated game is out of the question. We may be the only conference that hopes that we get refs from the opponents conference. In the Pac-12 everything is defensive pass interference, offensive holding can only be called once per game, and almost every audible hit is reviewed for targeting. The Cyclones statistically haven’t been too penalized, but I can relate to the drive killing penalties part. Oregon isn’t too bad either, but you can count on us for one or two stupid unsportsmanlike penalties.

I checked out the WVU game, that was impressive. Oregon will hopefully not allow Purdy to be that accurate, one of the few areas the defense excels in. That Hutchinson receiver looks pretty good, so our corners will have their hands full - both were just named All Pac-12 so it should be a fun matchup. The TE Kolar will probably see a bunch of different people matched up with him from the nickel safety to the LBs. He’s a big dude. I’m also wary of the back up RB, looks like he has some wheels on him and we’ve seen the defense get burned by chance of pace backs.
 
There are still frustrations at times, but overall, the D is usually very sound in positioning and tackling.
I was pretty disappointed with our tackling against OU. Normally we're very sure tacklers in the open field, but the OU backs and WR consistently picked up yards after contact that most other teams weren't able to get. That OU RB was pretty big (holy cow, 246lbs) but even their wide outs didn't go down easily.
 

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