Did we lose too much?
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Unnecessary Roughness and Cover 3 to name a few. They pretty much write ISU off as middle of the conference because we “lost everyone”. I find it funny that they think that there’s a huge drop off losing a 2nd and 3rd round WRs. “Isu can’t replace those guys with how they recruit.” But then how did they get those guys in the first place???
I feel like this is a better team than last year but will have a worse record.
You lost credibility with mentioning Unnecessary Roughness.
Cover 3, I assume you are referring to the over/unders pod. Don’t recall any of them saying “we lost everyone” but did laminate losing two 1,000 yard receivers is a big deal for ANY team. It’s not crazy to question the weapons out there. Until proven otherwise.
All of them said they thought we’d be good but have a tricky schedule and could lose more games this season. Which you agree with!
We don’t have to take offense to every national reporter who has some questions.
Just about to type something similar. These guys had little to no clue that Higgins and Noel were even alive one year ago. So I don’t take them seriously saying we lost too much.
Year in, year out we’ve had guys step up and become great receivers for us. This will essentially be the fourth set of receivers to come in after 1-2 went to the NFL.
How many times I’ve heard “Well now you don’t have “Lazard” => “Butler” => “Kolar” => “Hutchinson” => “Higgins/Noel”.
Okay. We’ll just keep reloading the position.
How many times I’ve heard “Well now you don’t have “Lazard” => “Butler” => “Kolar” => “Hutchinson” => “Higgins/Noel”.
Okay. We’ll just keep reloading the position.
What's the over/under on our win total this year? I'm going with 8.5, that would likely put us 3rd or 4th in conference which smells about right. Decent bowl game. Hopefully beat EIU. That would add up to a good year.
Losing Noel and Higgins obviously stinks but the passing game will be fine without them IMO. Staff has shown a good ability to identify talent there. I'm more concerned about replacing Travis, Onyedim, and guys in the secondary. Verdon(though he did have injury issues) and Porter were studs.
7.5 at draftkings. +115 O and -135 U. I would lean the over.
Maybe I need to make my point differently. I don’t disagree with your statement.
More to the point, we have thrown for over 3,000 yards for the last 10 years all, but one season. That was Brock Purdy in 2020, and we were just under.
We will get the production from somewhere, whether it be TE, WR, or RB. It was great to have Higgins and Noel, they were NFL caliber players.
Historically, we have shown that we will continue to get that same production. Just keep the turnovers to a minimum and we will continue to be a winning team. We are not rebuilding this year, we are reloading.
I wouldn't be shocked if we took a step back but not bc of what we lost. We trade Houston, UCF, WV and KU for 3 pac 12 schools and BYU. The schedule will be a bit tougher. Could be the difference in a game or two. It's a thin line between 10-2 and 8-4.
It's basically a referendum on our recruiting and development. The next two years ISU must win big. We have financial issues and want to remain relevant. Gotta win.
We play KU again.
Trading Houston, UCF, WV, Utah and Tech for AZ, ASU, CU, BYU and TCU. Not playing Tech this year could be a break, will be favored over AZ and CU, BYU we get at home, at TCU will be tough.
Who knows though. We were all afraid of the @utah game last year, and look what happened.
Educated CFB podcasts like Solid Verbal and Josh Pates CFB show have a much more realistic outlook for ISU
The reason Noel and Higgins had so many catches in part was due to Brahmers injury and the inability to stop the run forced us to rely on them a lot more. Sure they will be big hole to fill but let’s not forget the reasons why we depended upon on them so much.
I have that same feeling. It's certainly possible. Bounce of the ball in one-score games is huge unless you are one of the 1 or 2 truly elite teams in a season.
Last year ISU was 4-1 in one score games. All 4 wins were last-minute heart attack jobs (UCF, Iowa, Miami, UU). You don't have to be a hater to bet on that turning out worse in 2025. But maybe, just maybe, this team wins because it is confident and has Rocco. That could certainly happen too.
Given the nature of football, in which production is largely channeled to few positions by design, and yet is more the product of the collective execution, returning production has more value in basketball than football imo
Imo both are fairly equally informative
I’d bet heavy on a team that loses 80% of its production at WR, but otherwise returns the ecosystem around that position, than one that returns more production but has a hole at LT
A WR that previously didn’t play because of being 75% the quality of the lost starters, generally doesn’t represent a big drop off
I’m way more worried about not getting the bounces in close games. I don’t think it’s random, as well coached and prepared teams tend to get “lucky” in close games, but there is some level of luck. Particularly in a conference with this much inherent parity
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It’s also what separates you from being an above average / pretty good team to a good/great team. Almost no one ever blows everyone out. You have to learn to win games close. In past years we’ve had teams not be able to do so and they went 7-5 or 8-4 instead of 9-3 or 10-2. Last year, we certainly could’ve gone 8-4 and we also were one 4th down play away from being 11-1.
