Exactly. I went from being a skeptic of any chance he made it out to being open to the idea that he could have. There is no hard evidence that he did make it out, and there is also no hard (forensic) evidence that he died in Germany.
Did Hitler Live Past WW2
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Exactly. I went from being a skeptic of any chance he made it out to being open to the idea that he could have. There is no hard evidence that he did make it out, and there is also no hard (forensic) evidence that he died in Germany.
Absolutely. He lived for a time in a condo in Guatemala with Elvis, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, and Jimmy Hoffa.
Edit: They were later joined by D.B. Cooper.
EDIT2: You're just plain wrong,dosry
Edit: They were later joined by D.B. Cooper.
EDIT2: You're just plain wrong,dosry
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This is exactly right. Someone like Hitler would absolutely off himself. The thought of living in a world that wasn't what he planned would be too much for a fascist egotistical monster like him.
There is no way Hitler made it out alive. Towards the end of the war he was crumbling mentally and was basically insane as well as taking many drugs for injuries after the assassination attempt. He was only a figure head towards the end of the war and wasn't mentally capable to even remotely plan an escape let alone have the support of enough people to get him out as it became obvious the war was lost.
Some experts would disagree with that statement.
He was an megalomaniac who was very close to having nuclear weapons. He was dead set on starting the 4th Reich.
Similar to Gaddafi and Hussein, people who are megalomaniacal are going to do all they can to run and hide and evade capture or death.
It would be interesting if evidence were found that he did survive and was secreted to somewhere else. Evidence shows there were enough high ranking members of the Nazi party that did find refuge in South America after the war. So, as far as conspiracies go, it's one that is actually more plausible than most for the fact he would have been surrounded by fanatical people who presumably would want to actively aid in keeping the secret.
I'm intrigued to learn the FBI/CIA were still chasing down leads decades after the end of WWII.
I'm intrigued to learn the FBI/CIA were still chasing down leads decades after the end of WWII.
Yeah that is what got me. CIA still looking for him after he was declared dead. Also, the Russians at that time were not exactly trust worthy and we can believe that they got him.
Cyclonepride
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Things already not mentioned that validates the possibility that Hitler made it out, from the perspective of why the story we were told in history class has holes.
- The Allied public wanted news that he was dead, it would benefit public moral. See recent example of Bin Laden. The public would not receive news of his escape well. All the evidence you need here is that FBI was secretly looking for him in South America into the '50s and '60s. (unclassified documents prove this)
- The Soviets are the only ones that had access to the physical evidence. They were not known to be trustworthy or reliable on an investigation. Remember the actual remains they claimed to be Hitler were proven to be that of a women, that didn't fit the profile of Eva Braun.
It was something around 10 days- 2 weeks between his last public appearance and reported suicide.
Cyclonepride
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Yeah, he could have been anywhere by then. Probably the main argument against it is the fact that it would have been really hard to keep it a secret with intelligence agencies searching for him.
Yes, but they also were searching for other high level nazis that made it to South America. Ones long thought died in Germany until recent evidence.
I have never seen anything that said anything besides Hitler's personal dentist confirmed the identities of both Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun-Hitler from the ditch.
That article is nine years old and somewhat speculative -- I do not use that as a pejorative, but rather that it was just putting forth new evidence.
It has since been investigated and refuted.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-old-mystery-over-hitlers-possible-skull.html
Refuted or counter-claimed? The History channel did mention it took some special work to get the skull analyzed. In other words, either they are lying about it, or the Russian official statement is lying about it.
The French team examined the actual physical evidence with the cooperation of the Russian archives, and they came to the "mundane" conclusion.
It is disputed if Bellantoni even had access to the skull and jawbone in question. Despite this, he contends the skull/bones were not the Austrian corporal.
Honestly, at this point, I trust the French and the Russian archivists far more than I do The "History" Channel and whatever click-bait they are working on this week.
One side is definitely lying. I just figure one side is the more obvious one to be doing it, and I see no reason not to trust the French investigation.
I call that refuted. The French were not sure on the skull but were on the jaw.
The original video is not lying. They are investigating it. Not saying it’s true. Which is fine. Like JFK there is no conclusion but it’s fun to watch the investigations they do to see if a second shooter existed
It is funny you bring this up. Russian intransigence and willful actions to sow discord within the ranks of their enemies (some things never change, right?) are a large source of the conspiracies over both Hitler and Kennedy's deaths.
Stalin knew Hitler was dead and lamented they could not take him alive. He let the NKVD plant fake evidence and narratives, however, because claiming Hitler was alive and being sheltered by the Western allies (or anybody who crossed Stalin, somebody like Tito comes to mind) had a powerful propaganda and ideological effect for the Soviets.
With Kennedy, the close association between Oswald and his personal life involving communism, Cuba, and the Soviet Union itself meant the KGB wanted anybody but Oswald blamed for it, even if Oswald did act ultimately on his own without their aid or instruction. Pissing off the USA by assassinating a president at the height of the Cold War, right after the Cuban Missile Crisis and right before the Vietnam proxy war, was not the Soviet idea of fun when we had a lot of nuclear weapons pointed at them. The KGB sowed and funded the dissemination of many such stories. They wanted anything to move the target off their own backs.
It is always the Russians. How do you know Ivan is up to something?
Because Ivan is always up to something.
