Deonte Burton's game

everyone keeps hoping for a player who can rebound and defend.

that's why wojo couldn't play him many minutes - he couldn't rebound or defend!

hopefully burton can build on his skills under hoiberg - i see no reason he wouldn't.

The team was/is bad, pretty hard to have definitive conclusions about individual players.

We've picked up two guys from there, the first one is a keeper.

Not to mention he was going through some tough stuff in his personal life while at Marquette. He was on the Big East all rookie team. That alone shows he's got a lot of potential.
 
On the bright side if he can't rebound or defend he should fit right in. semi-:jimlad:
 
Not to mention he was going through some tough stuff in his personal life while at Marquette. He was on the Big East all rookie team. That alone shows he's got a lot of potential.

This..There was something more going on the first half of his sophomore year. Then he transferred. By all accounts he had a successful freshman year.
 
Not to mention he was going through some tough stuff in his personal life while at Marquette. He was on the Big East all rookie team. That alone shows he's got a lot of potential.

Didn't we try to recruit him out of high school? I seem to recall reading something to that effect, but I'm not sure.

If so, Fred must have seen enough talent to try to recruit him. He was also ranked in the 50's of all high school players, so someone must think well of his game.
 
Didn't we try to recruit him out of high school? I seem to recall reading something to that effect, but I'm not sure.

If so, Fred must have seen enough talent to try to recruit him. He was also ranked in the 50's of all high school players, so someone must think well of his game.

I believe it was down to us and Marquette, but I'm not sure. I wonder if his moms health factored into his decision coming out of high school. Regardless, from reports he was looking for a change of scenery and said he likes the family atmosphere around our program. So much so he is paying his own way this semester. hopefully this leas to good progress in his game. It's pretty remarkable that we have had two recruits two years in a row willing to pay their own way for a semester.
 
i'm bullish on burton's future at iowa state - he's an athletic freak and huge. just noting that he hasn't yet been able to bring his potential to the court just yet. our program and hoiberg should be a huge help for him.
 
Burton did have a successful freshman year he did average 6.9 points in only 13 minutes per game. It was known that he was more than an athlete than basketball player at that time and needed to refine his game to really unleash his potential of his top 40 ranking. Thus, I don't want to read to much into his freshman stats to say that is the player he will be the next two years. Well see in December how it all works out but, I am hopeful a full RS year under Hoiberg will improve his shot and confidence. Even if the shot percentages were not to improve he has the size, athleticism and attitude to be a good defender and rebounder to help next years team.
 
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Didn't we try to recruit him out of high school? I seem to recall reading something to that effect, but I'm not sure.

If so, Fred must have seen enough talent to try to recruit him. He was also ranked in the 50's of all high school players, so someone must think well of his game.
It means someone thought well of his potential.

If he develops he will be a weapon. If he stays as is he will be a Nader type imo- can make great plays that few can, but inconsistency in fundamental basketball keeps him from being an every game producer.
 
The rumor was Marquette didn't think that highly of McKay, so I'll reserve judgement on Burton's reported history of not being willing to defend/rebound until we see it for ourselves
 
I see Burton as a slasher to the basket and finisher through contact. Fred should also help him with his jumper and ask him to step up in the rebounding department. Imagine this guy going to the basket full steam, who the hell is going to stop him?
 
The Big East All-Rookie team thing is overblown, to be honest. They picked seven players for the all-rookie team. The reality is that he averaged about 7 points per game and that's basically the extent of his production from his freshman year at Marquette. He only hit 4 threes all year and it sounds like he had free throw troubles during the second half of the season.

I think he'll be a good player for us, but comparisons to Kane are probably a bit much. I know people comparing Burton to Kane are not saying they are on the same level, but it's the same as the thread where somebody compared Niang to Larry Bird. A few similar characteristics does not mean two players are similar.
 
everyone keeps hoping for a player who can rebound and defend.

that's why wojo couldn't play him many minutes - he couldn't rebound or defend!

hopefully burton can build on his skills under hoiberg - i see no reason he wouldn't.

Yes, we better hope. We already had a bench this year that was inconsistent at best in the ability to defend/rebound department. I also hope that Nader becomes more or an inside force vs. hanging out on the perimeter.
 
The Big East All-Rookie team thing is overblown, to be honest. They picked seven players for the all-rookie team. The reality is that he averaged about 7 points per game and that's basically the extent of his production from his freshman year at Marquette. He only hit 4 threes all year and it sounds like he had free throw troubles during the second half of the season.

I think he'll be a good player for us, but comparisons to Kane are probably a bit much. I know people comparing Burton to Kane are not saying they are on the same level, but it's the same as the thread where somebody compared Niang to Larry Bird. A few similar characteristics does not mean two players are similar.
So you're saying that if someone "moves like Jordan", we shouldn't assume they'll play like Jordan? There goes the whole Hawkeye recruiting philosophy...
 
It means someone thought well of his potential.

If he develops he will be a weapon. If he stays as is he will be a Nader type imo- can make great plays that few can, but inconsistency in fundamental basketball keeps him from being an every game producer.

I don't like that comparison. Nader has never been an efficient player. Burton Has been a very efficient player. Nader got played a lot. Burton didn't play a ton.
 
The Big East All-Rookie team thing is overblown, to be honest. They picked seven players for the all-rookie team. The reality is that he averaged about 7 points per game and that's basically the extent of his production from his freshman year at Marquette. He only hit 4 threes all year and it sounds like he had free throw troubles during the second half of the season.

I think he'll be a good player for us, but comparisons to Kane are probably a bit much. I know people comparing Burton to Kane are not saying they are on the same level, but it's the same as the thread where somebody compared Niang to Larry Bird. A few similar characteristics does not mean two players are similar.

Actually, having similar characteristics is the definition of the word "similar." :rolleyes:
 
After having some discussion in another thread about the impact Burton would or would not have next year, I went looking for some video. Here is video from High School. Seems like a great fit for our system. I was really impressed by his handle. If he plays hard on defense, it will allow Fred to create so many mis-matches on offense with different lineup changes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSF2FwHNAa0