**** daylight savings

2speedy1

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That's not exactly true, unless you flipped both time blocks from DST from what it is today. By removing DST you are only moving one sunrise/set block, not both.

Without an adjustment, you'd have winter sunrise at 8:40am and sunset at 5:55pm and summer at 5:40am and 8:50 pm.

Or you could choose the other time block then you'd have winter sunrise at 7:40 am sunset at 4:55 with summer being 4:40am and 7:50pm.

Personally, I like option 1. I can understand the need for kids safety. It's just exhibit 2,493 that kids ruin everything lol.
I said that as an example if you keep DST you get it the first way, if you keep Standard you get it the other. So keeping standard would mean super early sunrise and early sunsets in the summer. And keeping DST you would get super late sunrise in the winter and not quite as early sunsets. The normal season for those would not change. Obviously during normal DST season DST time would be the same if we kept that, and if we kept standard during standard time it would be the same.

edit: I go with we keep the adjustment every year and tell the whiners to STFU. You quoted times for the DM area for the extreme North Iowa it would actually be several mins worse, as this would be for the entire state, and would mean they would be forced too. Plus means going from Iowa to other states you would have to change your clock because other states wont switch.

Just realize switching has a point and get over it.
 
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WooBadger18

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I said that as an example if you keep DST you get it the first way, if you keep Standard you get it the other. So keeping standard would mean super early sunrise and early sunsets in the summer. And keeping DST you would get super late sunrise in the winter and not quite as early sunsets. The normal season for those would not change. Obviously during normal DST season DST time would be the same if we kept that, and if we kept standard during standard time it would be the same.

edit: I go with we keep the adjustment every year and tell the whiners to STFU. You quoted times for the DM area for the extreme North Iowa it would actually be several mins worse, as this would be for the entire state, and would mean they would be forced too. Plus means going from Iowa to other states you would have to change your clock because other states wont switch.

Just realize switching has a point and get over it.
I can't remember, are you always this much of an ass?
 

ZRF

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Actually, you've actually got it backwards. DST is what we do during the summer, winter is standard time. If you like later sunsets you prefer DST, if you like earlier sunrises you prefer standard.

From Google:

Daylight saving time 2021 in Iowa began at 2:00 AM on
Sunday
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March 14
and ends at 2:00 AM on
Sunday
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November 7
All times are in Central Time.

Gah...you're right. I actually thought I had responded to a post that seemed to defend "leaving it after the fallback".
 

MNCYWX

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Okay... but how do you feel about "Daylight Saving"? ;)

Personally, I'd rather not have my kids walk to school in darkness for 5 months of the year. They walk at 7:25. School starts at 7:50.
 

jcyclonee

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The reasons for the time changes make sense to me. I'm not sure that's a ringing endorsement but I support them.
 

Rabbuk

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I think we should just go back to sundials and everybody gets to determine noon locally. Make things really exciting.
I'd work approximately 3 hours a day if this was the move. I clock in "oh look it's noon already"
 

2speedy1

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Minnesota looking to get rid of the time change, apparently ...

The person that is pushing the bill in Minnesota looked at a study for Mining injuries that showed the Monday after the switch mining injuries were up between 1983 and 2006 a whopping 5.7% over other days....yet apparently after just this one day everything goes back to normal because normal people have adjusted by Tuesday.

The study also didn't consider that possibly 5.7% of the workforce were the ones that spent that extra hour in the Bar on Sunday morning causing the extra sleepiness and injuries on Monday vs. those that are just because they were not used to the time change.

Northern MN I would think would hate no time switch, but I guess what do I know. They would have some extreme shifts to the daylight hours without it.
 
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CYdTracked

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I can do without it. I'd rather have daylight later into the day than in the morning if I had the choice too. Really messes with kids sleeping too as nothing sucks more when we roll back the clock thinking we'll get an extra hour of sleep just to have the kids wake up an hour earlier then.