Cyhawk postgame thread

[jackrabbit]

Are you seeing another coach fired at the airport?

Better yet. They will fire him mid-flight. Hand him a parachute. Then tell him to jump out of the back of the plane ala D.B. Cooper since he stole so much money from USC.

 

[CY9008]

Did not realize the tip drill Burkle catch was also tipped at the LOS

 

[TopCy]

The fact that it was called on the field by two officials and the flag picked up makes it even more ridiculous.

I think the bigger issue is that it's not reviewable, so the refs have to try to recreate it in their memory to make a decision. Everything happens too fast to follow who was being blocked, when the block ended, how much the momentum from the block moved him into the returner, etc. I know they try to keep most subjective calls out of review procedures, but like targeting, if they're going to give the opportunity to second guess the initial flag, they might as well base that on something they can watch carefully.

 

[bawbie]

I will always go back to this: Iowa was more willing to put $3 million into two lousy quarterbacks the last three years than putting half of that into women’s basketball and giving them a chance to get two or three natties when CC was there. They had a golden opportunity that they flushed down the toilet.

I think there's an alternate explanation - that McNamara and Gronowski are not lousy QBs, but their system destroys QBs, specifically their confidence and decision making. They aren't in a position to succeed and seem to be second guessing every throw or decision

 

[CY9008]

Did not realize the tip drill Burkle catch was also tipped at the LOS

Appears most others didn’t either

 

[Rural]

I think there's an alternate explanation - that McNamara and Gronowski are not lousy QBs, but their system destroys QBs, specifically their confidence and decision making. They aren't in a position to succeed and seem to be second guessing every throw or decision

Definitions matter, maybe not lousy but also not good?

 

[Billups06]

It was bad but outside of it ISU also had chances to make it a 2-3 score lead that they didn't execute on.

Regardless, there have been times when ISU would let that one thing affect the rest of the game and it's good that the program seems to be in a spot where they can pull together and move on.

Heck holding Iowa to just a FG there was a positive.

Trade one of those first two FG's we kicked for a touchdown, and it's likely a comfortable lead going into the half. Specifically, if Overby catches that TD (immediately after the long Eskildsen catch), to make it 10-0 early in the 1st quarter, I think Iowa starts pressing on offense a little bit.

 

[Die4Cy]

I think there's an alternate explanation - that McNamara and Gronowski are not lousy QBs, but their system destroys QBs, specifically their confidence and decision making. They aren't in a position to succeed and seem to be second guessing every throw or decision

I don't know why some Hawkeye fans even dispute this. It is 100% confirmed by the slide in recruiting they've experienced on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[Kinch]

 

[bawbie]

Definitions matter, maybe not lousy but also not good?

Sure - it's probably both.

Fun fact - Gronowski has played 3 games (all losses) against FBS schools (all Power 5) here's his collective stats:

43-87 (49.4%) 434 yds (144.6/g) 2tds 2ints 9 sacks; 36 rushes for 75 yds and 1 TD

So I take it back, he may be lousy.

 

[clonehome]

Haven’t read the whole thread, so if not already mentioned can anyone explain why a walkon DB who doesn’t look particularly fast is one of the 2 deep guys on kick return? Letting that ball bounce at the 3 was awful. Could have cost us the game. We got a routine bounce that the other guy could field then Rocco made 3 or 4 great passes to get us out of that hole and flip the field.

I know Flora is hurt but surely we can find someone better to fill in for him. I’m sorry to pick on the kid but he looked like he had no business being in that position.

 

[cycloneman003]

A coaching change at USC is a real possibility that would clinch it.

We won't know anything about USC for a while yet likely. Lincoln Riley has that offense cooking again it seems like and they've got two bad teams coming up with Purdue/Michigan State. Got to see them during that Illinois/Michigan/Notre Dame stretch before knowing if Lincoln is going to be on the hot seat or not.

 

[Rural]

We won't know anything about USC for a while yet likely. Lincoln Riley has that offense cooking again it seems like and they've got two bad teams coming up with Purdue/Michigan State. Got to see them during that Illinois/Michigan/Notre Dame stretch before knowing if Lincoln is going to be on the hot seat or not.

I think he already resides on the seat, win or else.

 

[Statefan10]

Haven’t read the whole thread, so if not already mentioned can anyone explain why a walkon DB who doesn’t look particularly fast is one of the 2 deep guys on kick return? Letting that ball bounce at the 3 was awful. Could have cost us the game. We got a routine bounce that the other guy could field then Rocco made 3 or 4 great passes to get us out of that hole and flip the field.

I know Flora is hurt but surely we can find someone better to fill in for him. I’m sorry to pick on the kid but he looked like he had no business being in that position.

It was both that guy and X’s fault. The guy you mentioned is supposed to be a lead blocker essentially and X is supposed to be the one making the calls on whether he’s going to field the ball. If he doesn’t, I would guess it’s supposed to 100% be a fair catch. Looked to me like it was horrible communication and something that has to be fixed.

 

[EnkAMania]

We won't know anything about USC for a while yet likely. Lincoln Riley has that offense cooking again it seems like and they've got two bad teams coming up with Purdue/Michigan State. Got to see them during that Illinois/Michigan/Notre Dame stretch before knowing if Lincoln is going to be on the hot seat or not.

We know that Ferentz always loses in the Pacific time zone.

 

[Statefan10]

Sure - it's probably both.

Fun fact - Gronowski has played 3 games (all losses) against FBS schools (all Power 5) here's his collective stats:

43-87 (49.4%) 434 yds (144.6/g) 2tds 2ints 9 sacks; 36 rushes for 75 yds and 1 TD

So I take it back, he may be lousy.

He is an okay QB, one that was in a great system for his skillset and he was also surrounded by higher level talent (when talking context of his FCS team compared to others).

Now he’s just an okay QB with some mediocre skill guys in a horrible offensive system.

 

[cycloneworld]

I think Iowa is probably to finish in the 7-5 to 9-3 category. Average Big 10 team. Gronowski may be wasted in their system, but he does have the ability to pick up yards with his feet, and can throw the ball better than his stats would indicate. They still need to find someone to throw it to though. Another boring AF Iowa team to watch.

I see no possible way they only lose 2 more games to finish 9-3. Where do their wins come from:

Guaranteed - UMASS
Probable - Michigan State, Minnesota? Rutgers?
Toss up - at Wisconsin
Slight underdogs - at Nebraska, Indiana
Minimal chance - Penn State, Oregon, at USC

I see 5-6 wins likely and to get more than that’s they’ll have to upset someone and beat ranked teams which they haven’t done in half a decade.

 

[Rural]

He is an okay QB, one that was in a great system for his skillset and he was also surrounded by higher level talent (when talking context of his FCS team compared to others).

Now he’s just an okay QB with some mediocre skill guys in a horrible offensive system.

You are saying a lot of his FCS highlights are throwing to wide open guys on crossing routes?

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Yeah, two higher profile quarterbacks in a row looking bad in that system sends a terrible message, especially when they were sold as the answer to a pretty long pattern of futility there.

I think it comes down to that EIU harps over and over that they cannot make a mistake, if you are pushing the ball down the field, and throw ints. then you are not playing. So taking chances is not an option, it's playing it safe, punt and let the defense do their deal. They have gone through too many talented QBs, so it's not about talent level, it's a choice that the head coach is making.

Their WR talent level is MAC level talent, which you cannot blame the kids, why would any talented WR want to go to an offense that is always going to be run first, run second and then throw. The talented kids want the ball to showcase their talent, and you are not going to get in it in the ground and pound offense EIU runs.

 

[Rural]

I see no possible way they only lose 2 more games to finish 9-3. Where do their wins come from:

Guaranteed - UMASS
Probable - Michigan State, Minnesota? Rutgers?
Toss up - at Wisconsin
Slight underdogs - at Nebraska, Indiana
Minimal chance - Penn State, Oregon, at USC

I see 5-6 wins likely and to get more than that’s they’ll have to upset someone and beat ranked teams which they haven’t done in half a decade.

I don't see any basis for the probable group.

Rename it, maybe-maybe not?