This thread is a perfect example of some "fans" being way more passionate about and getting their jollies - arguing that ISU isn't great/good and are going to struggle in the conference.
Conference Prediction for ISU
- Thread starter rholtgraves
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It just feels weird for Iowa St fans to hang their hat on defense.
I hope you're right, but this is roughly how I have it so far against teams "with a pulse."
Indiana St: just ok
Miami: very good
Gonzaga 1st half: terrible
Gonzaga 2nd half: very good
Cincinnati: pretty good
Iowa: pretty bad
Drake: not good
Cincinnati I would say was very good plus I think our offense will improve
We know. I was wondering why you brought the 0-6 thing into it. I don't like moving targets when I argue.
It's everything everyone has always wanted and now everyone thinks we're going to be worse. Not a high bball IQ fan base plus we have a lot of people that recently jumped on the bandwagon that are just itching to get off.
We know. I was wondering why you brought the 0-6 thing into it. I don't like moving targets when I argue.
Ha my bad, thought those two kind of just went together in this argument
Bingo. I miss Hoiball like crazy but we always wanted a good defensive and rebounding team. So far we've gotten that and all people do is complain about it
There have been MUCH better rebounding teams recently, and it's just too early to say this team is way better defensively. If they're playing like they did against Miami and Cincinnati come February, then hell yes I'm on board, and they should be cruising towards a solid seed in the tournament.
Nobody is arguing that they haven't seen defensive improvement from this team. They just haven't been consistent enough to prove that during a bad offensive night, defense can carry them to a victory. Now, will the offense improve? God I hope so.
Consistency is always an issue and it was under Hoiberg too. The casual fan appreciates good offense over good defense
We played three teams with a pulse, lost to two of them AND lost to Iowa. The Hawks are currently rated 68th by Ken Pom, one spot above Texas, the worst team in the Big 12. This is where my lack of confidence comes from. We got rolled by the Hawks and they are arguably as bad of a team as we play the rest of the year (with the exception of Vandy).
Here's a fun way to waste some time... go through Iowa State's schedule game by game on kenpom and figure each game with the % chance to win he lists and a random number generator (https://www.random.org/integers/). So for example, we are at 62% to beat Texas Tech, so generate a random number, if it is 1-62 we win, if it is 63-100 we lose. For the game at Kansas we win if you get a 1-15 and lose if you get a 16-100.
I just did one and we finished 15-15 (7-11). Eek. But the one I did before that we finished 18-12 (9-9) and swept Kansas.
Like I said, fun way to waste time.
I just did one and we finished 15-15 (7-11). Eek. But the one I did before that we finished 18-12 (9-9) and swept Kansas.
Like I said, fun way to waste time.
Yep, far too many shouldn't and could wins as opposed to should wins.Here's a fun way to waste some time... go through Iowa State's schedule game by game on kenpom and figure each game with the % chance to win he lists and a random number generator (https://www.random.org/integers/). So for example, we are at 62% to beat Texas Tech, so generate a random number, if it is 1-62 we win, if it is 63-100 we lose. For the game at Kansas we win if you get a 1-15 and lose if you get a 16-100.
I just did one and we finished 15-15 (7-11). Eek. But the one I did before that we finished 18-12 (9-9) and swept Kansas.
Like I said, fun way to waste time.
We will have to play nearly our best in so many games to have a chance in March. Imo we will be in most games, but are not built for pulling out wins in what should be a lot of close games.
We played horrible against Iowa. Good teams lose to bad teams all the time, especially on the road. We play like we did against Miami, Gonzaga or Cincinnati and we roll in that game
What games will we have to play nearly our best to win? Getting stops is one way to pull out close wins and this team looks built to do that so far
I'm sure glad the team didn't use kenpom to decide the last few seasons as our profile was much worse at this point in time (although with a better offensive efficiency). Advanced stats tend to fluctuate and I wouldn't use any prediction model to project more than a game or two in advance.
In a strong majority of the next 19. And you're correct, I forgot about those close wins against Cincy and Gonzaga.
We lack the consistent playmakers and our abilities on defense and rebounding in a must-have possessions against Big 12 level teams are unproven at best. Let's hope most nights we get Gonzaga level Burton, Young quickly develops, and the shots are falling for Thomas and Naz.
Were going to have to play nearly our best to win most games we have left? Are you serious?
