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Conference Prediction for ISU

I originally predicted 7-11. Really hope I'm way off or the rest of the season will be a bloodbath. 9-9 probably more likely.

Truth is this team isn't going anywhere. We may or may not squeeze into the tournament. Prohm needs to give Young all of Bowie's minutes; not so much for this year but for the next 3 so we can at least have something moving forward. Love Young's tip outs; such a smart play that doesn't show up in the box score. Let him struggle and learn.
 
Cydkar said:
You are going to Lawrence? I could have gone for free with GREAT seats, from Coach Mann, 2 years ago and I declined out of principle. I won't ever set foot in there.

This year will be miserable.
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Yeah I've been a few times
 
swarthmoreCY said:
Proof of this "get it together"/too much talent narrative?

Not only ar
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A lot of guys who played in the Sweet 16 and who have won conference tournaments on the team. We have guys who have won at a high level. They are just going through the same type of slump we seem to go through every year. We will get hot and all will be right with the world.
 
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chuckd4735 said:
10-8, lose the 4/5 game, 18-13. We'll beat Baylor at home to solidify a 10 seed.
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I rated that as funny because we could not beat Baylor when they played badly in Waco and it looks like they are playing better now. Plus we suck, so there is that too.
 
Cyclone11 said:
I rated that as funny because we could not beat Baylor when they played badly in Waco and it looks like they are playing better now. Plus we suck, so there is that too.
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And I felt we really couldn't have hardly played a much better game down there. It's highly unlikely we beat Baylor at home. I wonder how many minutes Prohm will stick to playing Burton at the 5. A near 20 point loss wouldn't surprise me.
 
What a weird first half of conference play for WV. Before last night's game the top four teams were KU, Baylor, ISU, and them. They now have beat all three..by DOUBLE DIGITS nonetheless. Yet lost to Tech, OU, and KState....all teams that ISU defeated. Weird. Seems like the only losses they will have are when they beat themselves. Or maybe a rare occasion when refs call holding when they grab and put two hands on you to deny the ball like they got away with on Monte.
On a side note, I felt this way about WV last year (impressed) and they got knocked out first round. They better darn well DO something in the big dance this year, or I'm not going to praise Huggins any more.
 
1976 said:
A lot of guys who played in the Sweet 16 and who have won conference tournaments on the team. We have guys who have won at a high level. They are just going through the same type of slump we seem to go through every year. We will get hot and all will be right with the world.
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Pretty optimistic but something we would all like to see happen! Slumps happen but don't think we have the front court personnel to just assume we'll snap out of a slump and get hot. We're getting beat by better teams, imo.
 
allfourcy said:
Pretty optimistic but something we would all like to see happen! Slumps happen but don't think we have the front court personnel to just assume we'll snap out of a slump and get hot. We're getting beat by better teams, imo.
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WVU is probably better, KU is better, Baylor is probably better. I don't think anyone else on our schedule is better than we are.
 
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Using m-red bracket generator, prior to games on 2-1. Big 12 tournament bracket below.

Final standings
1. Kansas (15-3)
2. West Virginia (13-5)
3. Baylor (12-6)
4. Iowa State (10-8)
5. Kansas State (8-10) Defeated Oklahoma State based on head-to-head record.
6. Oklahoma State (8-10) Lost to Kansas State based on head-to-head record.
7. Texas Tech (7-11) Defeated TCU based on record against #2 teams.
8. TCU (7-11) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams.
9. Oklahoma (5-13) Defeated Texas based on record against #2 teams.
10. Texas (5-13) Lost to Oklahoma based on record against #2 teams.

Big 12 snapshot 1-31.jpg
 
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Stewo said:
I wish I could share the optimism that some here do. I don't see us winning another road game and losing to Baylor at home. Of course, predicting this team is nearly impossible. Never really know which version is going to show-up.
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This is pretty likely.
If we make the tournament, it's because they ran out of other teams to fill the spots.

Unfortunately, you can predict our 2nd halves pretty well.
 
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cyclones500 said:
Using m-red bracket generator, prior to games on 2-1. Big 12 tournament bracket below.

Final standings
1. Kansas (15-3)
2. West Virginia (13-5)
3. Baylor (12-6)
4. Iowa State (10-8)
5. Kansas State (8-10) Defeated Oklahoma State based on head-to-head record.
6. Oklahoma State (8-10) Lost to Kansas State based on head-to-head record.
7. Texas Tech (7-11) Defeated TCU based on record against #2 teams.
8. TCU (7-11) Lost to Texas Tech based on record against #2 teams.
9. Oklahoma (5-13) Defeated Texas based on record against #2 teams.
10. Texas (5-13) Lost to Oklahoma based on record against #2 teams.

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I think its extremely important to stay ahead of the fellow bubble teams for 4th place. I was disappointed last night, but after the top 3 nobody is really stepping up and taking control of the remaining 2 or 3 bids the conference is likely getting this year.

So looking at the projected standings, would the tourney really only take 4 teams from the Big 12 with how high our RPI is? This may be a good indication we could still get in at 9-9 or 8-10 even.
 
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jereseib said:
I think its extremely important to stay ahead of the fellow bubble teams for 4th place. I was disappointed last night, but after the top 3 nobody is really stepping up and taking control of the remaining 2 or 3 bids the conference is likely getting this year.

So looking at the projected standings, would the tourney really only take 4 teams from the Big 12 with how high our RPI is? This may be a good indication we could still get in at 9-9 or 8-10 even.
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To your first point, I agree the realistic scenario is for ISU to take care of business vs. teams that are in similar position (we must take into account many teams in that area outside of Big 12, too, but we can't control any of that).

Your question about Big 12 being only a 4-bid league: It's possible.

My logic says it's a solid-5, there are 8 teams that are alive for a bid, I don't expect the 7-team invite this year. Too much separation between upper-3rd and 4-and-below (reduced chance of upsets) and bottom-feeders don't have enough "pushover quality" for middlings to feast.
 
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jereseib said:
I think its extremely important to stay ahead of the fellow bubble teams for 4th place. I was disappointed last night, but after the top 3 nobody is really stepping up and taking control of the remaining 2 or 3 bids the conference is likely getting this year.

So looking at the projected standings, would the tourney really only take 4 teams from the Big 12 with how high our RPI is? This may be a good indication we could still get in at 9-9 or 8-10 even.
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8-10? With 4 nonconference losses? Even with a loss in first round of conf. tourney? That would be 16-15. That might not even get us an NIT bid.
 
awd4cy said:
8-10? With 4 nonconference losses? Even with a loss in first round of conf. tourney? That would be 16-15. That might not even get us an NIT bid.
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Yeah, 8-10 is not likely, and I think we are better than that anyways. 9-9 might get us there though, might depend on how well we do in KC this year as there will be opportunities for 2 more quality wins down there.
 
cyclones500 said:
To your first point, I agree the realistic scenario is for ISU to take care of business vs. teams that are in similar position (we must take into account many teams in that area outside of Big 12, too, but we can't control any of that).

Your question about Big 12 being only a 4-bid league: It's possible.

My logic says it's a solid-5, there are 8 teams that are alive for a bid, I don't expect the 7-team invite this year. Too much separation between upper-3rd and 4-and-below (reduced chance of upsets) and bottom-feeders don't have enough "pushover quality" for middlings to feast.
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Im thinking 5 bids, 6 at the absolute most this year, especially after the conference looked over the weekend against the SEC.

So I guess these 5 teams will be fighting for the 2 or 3 bids.

Iowa State
TCU
K-State
Tech
Oklahoma St

We've already beaten 3 of them and likely all of them once we play TCU at home. Also, although our non-conf was 8-4 we played by far the toughest schedule of the 5. None of them really even have a Miami type win except maybe OSU winning at Wichita.

Im not feeling as bad about our chances as I was last night. If we lose in Austin next week I think we may be on life support though.
 
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