Coaching Prospects
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I wanted him for this year. I like his style of offense and it would be something different to try and entice players.
I honestly dont like this one. Youre talking about a coach who has never, even as an assistant, coached at the upper level. And before someone says it, yes, we did that with Hoiberg, but he could recruit with all his NBA ties. Can Stitt recruit the equivalent level of talent to ames? Probably not.
His biggest claim to fame is beating NDSU in his first game at Montana, but Rhoads did that his first year too. Its not like he was even crazy dominant at the lower level either.
Hell, even if Chizik had used us as a more traditional stepping stone, that would have been fine. His first 2 years sucked, but the talent was there to give Rhoads his best year, and more and more i believe Chizik would have done at least that well in years 3-4.
Stepping stone coach is fine with me as well. If that results in 8 wins, I'm content just cycling through coaches for the next 10 years. Most losing coaching don't move on to better schools. Stepping stone usually means we improved.
By everywhere else you mean Ohio State and a Texas guy having success with Texas talent? Success at OSU under Meyer has no bearing on suggesting he would be good for ISU. Rice is not a good comparison and he also did not develop anything there. His hiring exemplifies why CPR's plan on how to build the program was amiss.
Take all of the names in this thread, then take it down two notches from there. That is who we can get.
I woke up this morning and for the first time in years didn't care about the coach or the record. That's not a good sign.
I'd rather have a guy with ample HC experience at smaller schools than a career assistant from a P5.
I hope you have the ungodly sums of money to pay for this plan that requires not only buying out Rhoads' multi-millions of dollars owed to him, but buying out the contract of the new coach that will probably run in the $10s of millions, then doubling his salary, which is even more $10s of millions. I certainly don't have that kind of money lying around to pull that off. In fact, most of us in Cyclone Nation together don't have that kind of money lying around to pull that off.
We weren't even targeting Orr - we were targeting his assistant. When Orr found out how much we were going to pay that guy, he threw his own name into the ring.
The question is this - how many established and successful P5 coaches are not only being as grossly underpaid as Orr was, but are also willing to uproot his family to go to a nondestination job like ISU? Not really thinking of any.
And that is why your replacement coach won't be an established coach, but will be a positions coach or a head coach of a non-P5 school or FCS school - someone that's going to want to prove himself to move onto bigger or better things. Unfortunately, at a place like ISU, you have to question why an ISU football coach isn't shopping around. As much as we hate Chizik, we only really hate the guy because he landed the Auburn job with a 5-19 record. That and everything that went down in the events following.
I don't hate that he got the Auburn job. We all knew that he would leave eventually. For me, I hate that he didn't do anything for the program before stepping out.
I think we can now see he did something, just didn't stay long enough to reap the rewards.
Chizik Ball was more dysfunctional and incompetent than CPR Ball, but I think it would have been better in Year 3 and 4 with new coordinators.
Sure, and that resulted in 1 good season before the decline set in. I would have liked to see something remotely substantial come out of it rather than 1 good season.
I don't question we got one decent season out of the deal, I would have liked to see the foundation be laid for something sustainable.
