CMC Record Stats

[shadow]

I dug up some old #'s that I had pulled together a while back, because this year's team seemed to thrive in close games which is unique.

CMC's Regular Season Records

• 2016: 3-9
• 2017: 7-5
• 2018: 8-4
• 2019: 7-5
• 2020: 8-2
• 2021: 7-5
• 2022: 4-8
• 2023: 7-5
• 2024: 10-2

CMC in 1 score games including bowl games (8 points or less)

• 2016: 1-4
• 2017: 4-3
• 2018: 3-2
• 2019: 2-4
• 2020: 4-2
• 2021: 2-5
• 2022: 1-6
• 2023: 2-3
• 2024: 4-1

 

[IST8CIVILENGR]

So expect 7-5 next year based on historical trends. I refuse!

 

[BMWallace]

I first put this chart together in 2022 when Campbell was getting a ton of heat for all the close losses. It shows that while Campbell has had a lot of close losses in his tenure, many of those are games that under previous regimes would have likely been blowout losses. I updated the chart with the 2024 results and it really shows the results of the winning in the margins culture that Campbell has instilled in the Cyclones football program.

	15+	8 to 14	1 to 7	-1 to -7	-8 to -14	-15+	Total Games
Dan McCarney	21​	11​	21​	23​	10​	44​	130​
Gene Chizik	2​	1​	2​	4​	7​	8​	24​
Paul Rhoads	14​	6​	12​	17​	8​	30​	87​
Matt Campbell	31​	11​	21​	31​	11​	8​	113​

 

[CyDude16]

I first put this chart together in 2022 when Campbell was getting a ton of heat for all the close losses. It shows that while Campbell has had a lot of close losses in his tenure, many of those are games that under previous regimes would have likely been blowout losses. I updated the chart with the 2024 results and it really shows the results of the winning in the margins culture that Campbell has instilled in the Cyclones football program.

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	15+	8 to 14	1 to 7	-1 to -7	-8 to -14	-15+	Total Games
Dan McCarney	21​	11​	21​	23​	10​	44​	130​
Gene Chizik	2​	1​	2​	4​	7​	8​	24​
Paul Rhoads	14​	6​	12​	17​	8​	30​	87​
Matt Campbell	31​	11​	21​	31​	11​	8​	113​

Those McCarney and Rhoads -15+ games are horrid. And that’s exactly why they deservedly got fired.

 

[BMWallace]

Those McCarney and Rhoads -15+ games are horrid. And that’s exactly why they deservedly got fired.

Every season at ISU before Campbell was a guaranteed four losses by more that 2 TDs. And I just stopped at the begging of the Big 12 era. I can only imagine how need earlier regimes would look.

 

[bluestarcyclone]

I first put this chart together in 2022 when Campbell was getting a ton of heat for all the close losses. It shows that while Campbell has had a lot of close losses in his tenure, many of those are games that under previous regimes would have likely been blowout losses. I updated the chart with the 2024 results and it really shows the results of the winning in the margins culture that Campbell has instilled in the Cyclones football program.

View attachment 138927

	15+	8 to 14	1 to 7	-1 to -7	-8 to -14	-15+	Total Games
Dan McCarney	21​	11​	21​	23​	10​	44​	130​
Gene Chizik	2​	1​	2​	4​	7​	8​	24​
Paul Rhoads	14​	6​	12​	17​	8​	30​	87​
Matt Campbell	31​	11​	21​	31​	11​	8​	113​

Also of note, of those 8 where the margins of loss was 15+, 4 of them came in year 1.

The other 4:
Bowl vs Notre dame
Louisiana 2020 (potential COVID issues prior to game)
TCU kicking our ass for style points in the last week of 2022
At Oklahoma last year.


Those teams were also highly ranked:
Notre Dame finished # 12
Louisiana finished # 15
TCU finished #2
Oklahoma finished #15

 

[Cyclonepride]

Those McCarney and Rhoads -15+ games are horrid. And that’s exactly why they deservedly got fired.

I'm guessing the bulk of McCarney's came in the first few years when they were working with next to nothing.

 

[bluestarcyclone]

I'm guessing the bulk of McCarney's came in the first few years when they were working with next to nothing.

McCarney 15+ deficits by year
95: 6
96: 4
97: 7
98: 5
99: 2
00: 3
01: 2
02: 4
03: 9
04: 2
05: 0
06: 6

 

[CychiatricWard]

I'm guessing the bulk of McCarney's came in the first few years when they were working with next to nothing.

25 of the 44 came after year 6. Mccarney was great for ISU and I love him dearly, but that trend wasn’t breaking. It was getting worse.

 

[Cyclonepride]

25 of the 44 came after year 6. Mccarney was great for ISU and I love him dearly, but that trend wasn’t breaking. It was getting worse.

Oh, no question it was time for him to go, but he inherited a situation that was so much more dire than anyone else on that list that it is understandable. We didn't have the talent to compete with anyone in D1 when he got there.

 

[CychiatricWard]

Oh, no question it was time for him to go, but he inherited a situation that was so much more dire than anyone else on that list that it is understandable. We didn't have the talent to compete with anyone in D1 when he got there.

I never said he didn’t but I responded to you saying a bulk of those came trying to dig the program out of a hole. Partially true, but he had 23 of those losses after 2000. I miscounted the first time around.

 

[CyDude16]

I'm guessing the bulk of McCarney's came in the first few years when they were working with next to nothing.

Wrong on bulk of them coming in the first few years.

 

[jsb]

If you really look at things, it’s crazy how much better Campbell is than any other coach we’ve had.

 

[shadow]

Thought of this thread this morning. Feels like a 7-5 record is coming which is historically consistent though I'm not even that confident about that happening.

CMC in 1 score games including bowl games (8 points or less)

• 2016: 1-4
• 2017: 4-3
• 2018: 3-2
• 2019: 2-4
• 2020: 4-2
• 2021: 2-5
• 2022: 1-6
• 2023: 2-3
• 2024: 4-1
• 2025: 3-2 thru 8 games

 

[besserheimerphat]

Thought of this thread this morning. Feels like a 7-5 record is coming which is historically consistent though I'm not even that confident about that happening.

CMC in 1 score games including bowl games (8 points or less)

• 2016: 1-4
• 2017: 4-3
• 2018: 3-2
• 2019: 2-4
• 2020: 4-2
• 2021: 2-5
• 2022: 1-6
• 2023: 2-3
• 2024: 4-1
• 2025: 3-2 thru 8 games

Teams across college football tend to go 50:50 in one score games over the long term. But in the short term (ie season-to-season) there are runs of good and bad performance. For ISU, that means the one-score record will determine our season. The best teams don't play one-score games - they blow people's doors off. That's our next step. Until we can get there, we're probably going to follow this trend of 9+ wins followed by 6 to 7 wins as we "even out" our one-score game record.

The future of the program will depend on the fanbase's satisfaction with that. I suspect old Clones will take it in a heartbeat, and younger Clones will insist we continue to search for coaches who can deliver more consistent "success."