Chris Williams the Time has Come

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I@ST1

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Tough man. You truly are a Dickhead. Why are you even on the website?

I stated that as a joke to the post about saying CW doesn’t even cover ISU MBB. He does. He covers all things ISU.

But from what I know about you - you are the true Dickhead.
 

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FWIW, this season shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone. The early season success was a combination of bad teams, and very little scouting reports on the new squad. We caught many of those ranked teams off guard. Then we got to our conference schedule. Early on, we kept up with the Baylors & Texas Techs, on pure determination. Once the reports came out about how to stop the offense, it was easier to do so, based upon talent level.

t's going to take time to rebuild this program. Freaking relax already. The field of 64 should never have been a target for this year, the fact we were talking about it should have been good enough. I'd still be happy with the NIT.

Also, the purpose of this thread to call out CW is pure ********.

I get that lots of people want to make that argument. But being 13-1 with 4 Q1 wins, competitive in every game, was what these same guys produced over the first couple months, and then went 3-8 since with one being an overtime escape from a poor OSU team and another a win against an absolutely terrible Missouri squad.

OU broke their backs defensively in the second half of a game more than a month ago and they have not really recovered defensively since that, while also pouring in a couple of the worst offensive performances in school history sprinkled among several double digit losses to teams that are not among the league's best to say the least.

This is an experienced P6 team and there really is no good explanation for that kind of collapse, failure to recover, inability to find something that would be their bread and butter, even if you accept as we all do that the talent isn't where we know it needs to be.

It's true, expecting an NCAA bid before the season was laughable. But you are permitted to adjust expectations along the way. I expected a .500 season with a chance at post season play and that's potentially right about where these guys are. But I recognize that even with that, how it has played out is still an epic collapse and cause for concern. They look beat. They haven't gotten better, and even when they have played well for stretches they've given it all away and then some. I think we all wanted a team that improved as the season went along, barring results in the W/L column. The unambiguous regression is what people are really losing their minds over.
 

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For those of you clamoring for the media to hold a coach accountable for on field/court performance, how exactly does that work? Do tough questions from the media modify coaching strategies? Do they change an outcome of a game? Do they teach a coach to be better at their job? Do you think you would get anything other than coach speak as a response? Coaches are held accountable by wins and losses and butts in the seats. Personally I’ve never cared what a coach says after a loss. It’s not that they are above criticism, it’s that what they say doesn’t matter. They’re paid to figure it out and if they don’t, they won’t be there.
 
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For those of you clamoring for the media to hold a coach accountable for on field/court performance, how exactly does that work? Do tough questions from the media modify coaching strategies? Do they change an outcome of a game? Do they teach a coach to be better at their job? Do you think you would get anything other than coach speak as a response? Coaches are held accountable by wins and losses and butts in the seats. Personally I’ve never cared what a coach says after a loss. It’s not that they are above criticism, it’s that what they say doesn’t matter. They’re paid to figure it out and if they don’t, they won’t be there.
It doesn’t accomplish anything. It gives angry fans some satisfaction.

People are welcome to find other sites or start their own. For business and/or personal reasons CW has taken this approach and it seems to be working fine for him and most of the people that use CF.
 

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I get that lots of people want to make that argument. But being 13-1 with 4 Q1 wins, competitive in every game, was what these same guys produced over the first couple months, and then went 3-8 since with one being an overtime escape from a poor OSU team and another a win against an absolutely terrible Missouri squad.

OU broke their backs defensively in the second half of a game more than a month ago and they have not really recovered defensively since that, while also pouring in a couple of the worst offensive performances in school history sprinkled among several double digit losses to teams that are not among the league's best to say the least.

This is an experienced P6 team and there really is no good explanation for that kind of collapse, failure to recover, inability to find something that would be their bread and butter, even if you accept as we all do that the talent isn't where we know it needs to be.

It's true, expecting an NCAA bid before the season was laughable. But you are permitted to adjust expectations along the way. I expected a .500 season with a chance at post season play and that's potentially right about where these guys are. But I recognize that even with that, how it has played out is still an epic collapse and cause for concern. They look beat. They haven't gotten better, and even when they have played well for stretches they've given it all away and then some. I think we all wanted a team that improved as the season went along, barring results in the W/L column. The unambiguous regression is what people are really losing their minds over.
This team is a quarter horse trying to run a full lap with the thoroughbreds. Damn they were fast down that first straight but ran out of go down the back stretch. When you understand the limitations of the horse before the race starts its much easier to rationalize the results.
 
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For those of you clamoring for the media to hold a coach accountable for on field/court performance, how exactly does that work? Do tough questions from the media modify coaching strategies? Do they change an outcome of a game? Do they teach a coach to be better at their job? Do you think you would get anything other than coach speak as a response? Coaches are held accountable by wins and losses and butts in the seats. Personally I’ve never cared what a coach says after a loss. It’s not that they are above criticism, it’s that what they say doesn’t matter. They’re paid to figure it out and if they don’t, they won’t be there.

It’s what fans do. Hell people wanted Campbell gone this year after losses. But because it’s TJ, complaining is unacceptable.
 
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I@ST1

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For those of you clamoring for the media to hold a coach accountable for on field/court performance, how exactly does that work? Do tough questions from the media modify coaching strategies? Do they change an outcome of a game? Do they teach a coach to be better at their job? Do you think you would get anything other than coach speak as a response? Coaches are held accountable by wins and losses and butts in the seats. Personally I’ve never cared what a coach says after a loss. It’s not that they are above criticism, it’s that what they say doesn’t matter. They’re paid to figure it out and if they don’t, they won’t be there.

I think it’s more of accountability.

Why wouldn’t you care what they would have to say after a loss? Would you care what they would say after a win? Should the media even be available to coaches/players?

If they get paid to only figure it out and not talk to the media - would you care?
 

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I have to admit, I couldn’t care less about the relationship between TJ and CW. If people don’t like the content or don’t trust the content they can go elsewhere. The relationship I do have a slight issue with is the one between Pollard and TJ and how the coaching search was conducted.

That being said, what’s done is done. He’s proven he’s a good recruiter, we need him to perform better on game day.
 
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