Campbell on Hot Mic

Thanks for reffing, to me that seems to be a thankless job.
I coached hs basketball and football for 25 years. When quit coaching full time decided to referee basketball to stay in totally horrible old man shape...lol. Thanks for comment.
 
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You can move out of a 2 pt stance. You can reset legally. If he stood straight up and pointed, not a presnap penalty. If moved as if he would to a snap, then it should’ve been offsides if the defensive player jumping is determined to cause it.
fine line and something that is referee job to interpret. It would of all been easy if the lineman across from him would of just moved and made contact with the defensive offender.
 
fine line and something that is referee job to interpret. It would of all been easy if the lineman across from him would of just moved and made contact with the defensive offender.
I think now there is so much standing to look back at the sideline, shifting, pointing out protections and blitzers that officials are locked in players making snap movements.
 
I think now there is so much standing to look back at the sideline, shifting, pointing out protections and blitzers that officials are locked in players making snap movements.
Yes, but all of that had been done, then he reset. It was obvious that he reacted to the movement into the neutral zone. I know I'm splitting hairs, just wanted the call....!
 
Campbell got away with his outburst on the offsides no-call for one reason - he was right and the most of the rest of the crew knew it when he was pointing at the line judge and yelling "do your job". Coaches can push it to the limit in these situations compared to when a coach tells an official that either he or his call sucks.

It took the line judge almost the entire game to finally stop ignoring that OU's DE lined up in the neutral zone on multiple snaps without drawing a flag.
Is that so? HHm, well that is surprising! And you are saying they didn't call it? :rolleyes:

It seems like OU didn't hold as much this game as last, I may be wrong. But they always seem to disguise their penaltys, like they know they are going to get away with it. OU: Let's see if I hold or interfere almost every play I know they won't call most of them.
 
Literally anyone who watches college football can say this play was targeting by the way the rule is written. If you think it wasn’t take off your cardinal and gold tinted glasses. Isheem didn’t get screwed by the refs, he got screwed by the rule.

and yes, this kids head did have that forcible snap motion.
Watching the replay the announcers did not agree with you and neither do I. That is the problem. Too subjective. Either way, as a defender you should be able to make a tackle. I am not sure that it was avoidable. By Isheem. How do you stop a guy leading with his head?
 
Watching the replay the announcers did not agree with you and neither do I. That is the problem. Too subjective. Either way, as a defender you should be able to make a tackle. I am not sure that it was avoidable. By Isheem. How do you stop a guy leading with his head?

they agreed it was a penalty based on the rule. I think it’s a poorly written rule as do they, but they did not disagree with what I’m saying. It’s actually not subjective at all. It would be subjective if a ref could make the decision based on what the ref thought the intent was.
 
did he have time to protect himself or clearly became a ball carrier (established himself as a runner)? If not then yes defenseless according to the rule book.

how many yards “after being defenseless” did David Montgomery get?
 
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No crazy story, but I know I've certainly said things i didn't mean when I got mad at people. Things that were only meant to hurt. And it didn't do anything to make me feel better or fix the situation.

Seems reasonable that if you're that mad at anyone, your rationality will go right out the window. Playcalling suffers, player execution suffers because the kids are distracted by what the coach is doing...
 
I think Sean McDonough said it best on the broadcast - that is was definitely targeting by definition of the rule. And that the rule needs changed.

I get what they are doing but to kick someone out for a bang-bang non-malicious hit while letting someone rip Purdy’s face mask off his helmet is BS “player safety”.

They did it twice in the game. Those were way worse than the targeting. If they are about player safety those plays should be reviewable also.
 
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No crazy story, but I know I've certainly said things i didn't mean when I got mad at people. Things that were only meant to hurt. And it didn't do anything to make me feel better or fix the situation.

Seems reasonable that if you're that mad at anyone, your rationality will go right out the window. Playcalling suffers, player execution suffers because the kids are distracted by what the coach is doing...

Yeah, I can see that. I do appreciate the passion, though.
I've never gotten that crazy, but my dad did a few times. Just kept the door locked till he calmed down.
 
By the way, does the targeting call mean Isheem Young is ineligible to play at the start of the Fiesta Bowl?
 
No crazy story, but I know I've certainly said things i didn't mean when I got mad at people. Things that were only meant to hurt. And it didn't do anything to make me feel better or fix the situation.

Seems reasonable that if you're that mad at anyone, your rationality will go right out the window. Playcalling suffers, player execution suffers because the kids are distracted by what the coach is doing...
Purdy was playing pretty fired up after that with his keeper. You could tell he was pissed. You get a trade off. I have no problem with Campbell occasionally letting loose when it’s deserved, as long as he doesn’t become a Bob Huggins (which he won’t).
 
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The target call was debatable, and the offsides call is made in many games I've watched. Even if CMC thought the calls met the strict interpretation of the rule, I thought he was letting the refs know--"Don't call this game in Oklahoma's favor because they are just playing little 'ole Iowa State.'. Good coaches work the officials and make sure things are not going to go one sided. It was a big game obviously, and CMC was not going to tolerate it. Johnny Orr was the master at this.
This...
BCClone and Mr. G Spot can spout how correct the refs were or how incorrect we all are on this...but the point here is, as a coach, especially when you're playing a blue blood, can NOT let the refs have the perception you're just going to tolerate every call that doesn't go your way. Right or wrong, I'm glad Campbell sticks up for his team.
And BCClone and Mr G Spot, I may take your mothers out for a nice seafood dinner and never call them back again. ;-)
 
Guys, both that call and the offensesides were correct. This isn’t HS, the player has to be across during the snap, make contact, or cause a lineman to move. The lineman across from the second one should have slapped him on the head and gotten the call.
Bumping heads??
 

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