Caleb Grill Transferring

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  1. Clonefan32

    Clonefan32 Well-Known Member

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    He definitely lacked the "fluidity" that you see in most D1 basketball players.
     
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  2. Statefan10

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    Without naming names, do you have an inclination on who else it could be?
     
  3. Drew0311

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    The only rumors are from people on here. I would guess Lewis. I don't see anyone else leaving
     
  4. Scott34

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    I find it comical that many of you are sitting here, predicting that a current freshman wasnt going to be a big 12 caliber player after playing in a limited role this year. You have no idea how he was going to develop.
     
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    If a program craters in the woods does it make a sound?

    Ingenious to fall off the cliff in an incomplete season with the next one in real jeopardy.
     
  6. Statefan10

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    No one knows where he was going to end up. He could've been really good. He also might not have developed much more. I'd say people are quite split on their feelings about him being a significant impact next season or the season after but most people are in agreement that him leaving is a huge shock and we would've rather he stayed.
     
  7. WastedTalent

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    "All you Prohmers"??
    C'mon, the board doesn't need another guy who thinks he's saying something profound by declaring Iowa St needs to fire Prohm. There's maybe 2 or 3 posters that fully support him.
     
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  8. Statefan10

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    Yeah me too.. I mean don't get me wrong Grill leaving surprised me but I just don't see Conditt, Solo, Bolton, or Jackson leaving. I also don't see any of the incoming recruits leaving either. Especially if Lewis does end up grad transferring, it seems like every one of these freshman are looking at our roster and see a lot of minutes that need to be filled.
     
  9. RoseClone

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    People have no idea about a lot of things but it doesn't stop them from presenting their opinion as fact.
     
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  10. Cyforce

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    Grill and Griffin somehow improve that?
     
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  11. jmkc12

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    FWIW I've heard that both Solo and Conditt are "both definitely staying"
     
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  12. Cycl1

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    No idea. I am just going off the rumors in this thread that said <2 potentially.

    Even if no one else goes we would still be down almost 50%. Not that they are all solid contributers, just seems like a lot.
     
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  13. heitclone

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    There seems to be only one obvious name for who may transfer but I think you could have said the same for him after last year. I wouldn't blame TL but I hope he sticks around. Anyone other than him would be a big surprise but Grill was a surprise, so who knows.
     
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  14. Statefan10

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    I don't think either of them improve that. But it just highlights how poor of a job Prohm has done at keeping recruiting classes. They're either good enough to play professionally and leave early, or they leave early for another reason. The 2020-2021 team will end up having 3 players remaining from the 3 previous recruiting (Lewis, Jackson, Conditt).
     
  15. Statefan10

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    Yeah I mean next year was going to feel like we lost a lot anyway honestly. Most people thought we'd lose two to the transfer portal and Tyrese would turn pro. If TL ends up staying, then we're still in the same boat, but lose someone we didn't expect.

    We don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but we do know how it looks from the outside and it does not look promising. Steve is going to have to do a hell of a job pitching this program to JUCOs and transfers. One probable bright side is that guys are going to want to go somewhere where they can play on a big stage and put up numbers. I assume they'll want to play in a free flowing offense as well. That's a positive for us because we fit all of those things. We're just going to have to wait and see who ends up on the roster and go from there.
     
  16. heitclone

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    This is mindblowing honestly. I know there is no reason to keep beating up Prohm but is it just misses in recruiting? Or is about not developing? I don't think he's terrible at player development but it seems like he does much better with transfers, veteran guys than he does developing freshmen. Not trying to downplay guys like LW or THT bc he deserves credit for them but they were probably going to be pro's no matter what. Tyrese is obviously a nod to his strengths in both areas but its seems like all 3 are kind of the exception more than the rule. It's still more likely, a HS recruit of his won't make it here than go pro or even finish their eligibility at ISU.
     
  17. CycloneErik

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    Free flowing offense? Come on. These guys rarely even move.
     
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  18. CycloneJoe6

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    Agree with this. How many people thought Naz was going to be a big contributor after his freshman year?
     
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  19. kentkel

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    Maybe it's like free will: they have freedom to choose to move, they just don't choose to. :confused:
     
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  20. CycloneErik

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    Just like they choose not to run.
    I do believe that you have cracked the code. Now I miss the old rep button.
     
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