Bubu Thread

[CyAg]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

One major flaw in your premise.

The only ruling at this point is allowing Bubu to play. Your statement implies it is a fact they made mistakes, did not use due diligence or follow protocol.

They may or may not have, I do not know. We will know the opinion of the court when they rule, that is the actual decision.
Either way it goes I can live with, but again, your statement is your opinion, not a conclusion of fact at this point.

Also, under pressure, he seems to have given a reasoned interview and candid information as he sees it in response to a reporters questions. How is this being small, when the University defends what they feel are miss statements?

 

[Spam]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I don't miss BVD but I miss Geoffrey

 

[Scott34]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I don't miss BVD but I miss Geoffrey

Amen! Is to soon to wish for Leath to resign and Geoffrey to take back the reigns?

 

[CYKOFAN]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

My guess is that Leath disagreed with the ALJ's interpretation of what it means to give "consent" under the ISU policy. Even if she's a despicable human being, Bubu doesn't get to have sex with her unless she gives consent. That is increasingly being defined by the Dept. of Education's Office of Civil Rights as affirmative consent, not just the absence of any objection by her.* Again, that's my guess, but it seems to me a plausible explanation.

* And no, I don't like that any more than you do.

It still boils down to Leath believing her when she said BUBu didn't have consent when Bubu obviously felt he did have consent, or he would be in jail right now. Just don't think Leath had anything to fear from the dept of education given the woman's track record in this case, and he and jp's indignation that the district court is involved in this would seem to back that up.

 

[CyDude16]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

The only fact I know is that ISU is letting somebody they believe to be a rapist attend classes on full scholarship. What the F@@@ Iowa State? Glad my daughter isn't old enough for college yet. I mean, he's off the team because you believed he raped a chick. Right ISU? Why is he still enrolled on a full ride? Fu@@@ing idiots.

Lol.....this is good.

 

[clonedude]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I just can't figure out why both Leath and JP are set at trying to hurt Iowa State in this? Because that is exactly what they are doing now by releasing these childish statements. Unbelievable.

Did the students ever get a "Bubu Palo" chant going today? I wish they had. We need to show our support for him IMO. Leath and JP can go screw themselves IMO.

 

[CrossCyed]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I just can't figure out why both Leath and JP are set at trying to hurt Iowa State in this? Because that is exactly what they are doing now by releasing these childish statements. Unbelievable.

Did the students ever get a "Bubu Palo" chant going today? I wish they had. We need to show our support for him IMO. Leath and JP can go screw themselves IMO.

I'm sure they have no other goal than to destroy their own legacies.

 

[CycloneErik]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I just can't figure out why both Leath and JP are set at trying to hurt Iowa State in this? Because that is exactly what they are doing now by releasing these childish statements. Unbelievable.

Did the students ever get a "Bubu Palo" chant going today? I wish they had. We need to show our support for him IMO. Leath and JP can go screw themselves IMO.

No, and it's good that they ignored that childishness.

A handful of people on CF are worked up beyond belief about this. That's not enough for something that stupid.

 

[CrossCyed]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

And there are a fair number of students who don't aren't going to support a guy who may have committed sexual assault until his innocence is proven - which it never was.

 

[NobodyBeatsCy]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I'm sure they have no other goal than to destroy their own legacies.

I know this is sarcasm - I'm usually a fan. But what they have been doing on twitter defies explanation.

 

[Luth4Cy]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I just can't figure out why both Leath and JP are set at trying to hurt Iowa State in this? Because that is exactly what they are doing now by releasing these childish statements. Unbelievable.

Did the students ever get a "Bubu Palo" chant going today? I wish they had. We need to show our support for him IMO. Leath and JP can go screw themselves IMO.

I think Leath genuinely believes he is doing the right thing. I think Pollard thinks that, or perhaps he is simply supporting Leath. Regardless it's not like they're primary goal is to look bad.

 

[CrossCyed]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I know this is sarcasm - I'm usually a fan. But what they have been doing on twitter defies explanation.

It's probably a little much from Jamie on Twitter.

Again, though, like I said, there's probably a damn good reason they are being so vociferous. I have no clue what it is, but intelligent people don't do these things without a reason.

 

[IcSyU]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

And there are a fair number of students who don't aren't going to support a guy who may have committed sexual assault until his innocence is proven - which it never was.

This is a key point...

Some people are labeling him guilty because of the accusation.
Some people are labeling him innocent because there are no criminal charges.

Unfortunately there are only 2 people who know exactly what happened. One isn't going to incriminate himself if there is damning evidence and his buddy (a known scum bag) probably isn't going to rat him out when they have nothing on him either.

Them going off the deep end leads me to believe they know more than they can let on but it doesn't make what they're doing any more acceptable. They have nothing to gain in this case and a lot of bad attention brought upon Iowa State.

 

[bawbie]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I just can't figure out why both Leath and JP are set at trying to hurt Iowa State in this? Because that is exactly what they are doing now by releasing these childish statements. Unbelievable.

1) the first question is answered in itself. You are starting from the predetermined conclusion that JP and Leath are anti-ISU, which is inherently ridiculous.

2) there was nothing childish about any official statement ISU has made in this, especially Leath's comments to the Trib today. That was a very professional statement that stuck to the facts and didn't lash out or respond at all to the silly crybabies like you.

 

[clonedude]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I know this is sarcasm - I'm usually a fan. But what they have been doing on twitter defies explanation.

I could see that JP would have a point if he hadn't looked the other way in a whole LOT of other athlete's indiscretions. Since when does he care about morals and values? He hasn't in the past, so why now? That's where he's lost me.

And then he decides to pick a fight with a case where the charges were basically dropped. Why? If JP is indeed a religious guy, fine, but then his religiosity must come and go then, and is not a consistent thing in his life.

 

[bawbie]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

This is a key point...

Some people are labeling him guilty because of the accusation.
Some people are labeling him innocent because there are no criminal charges.

Unfortunately there are only 2 people who know exactly what happened. One isn't going to incriminate himself if there is damning evidence and his buddy (a known scum bag) probably isn't going to rat him out when they have nothing on him either.

What we know, as a fact today, is that he is not guilty of any criminal charges and he was found in violation of the student code of conduct.

 

[CyStalker]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

And there are a fair number of students who don't aren't going to support a guy who may have committed sexual assault until his innocence is proven - which it never was.

I thought that guilt had to be proven, not innocents. We can all pray that doesn't change. What kind of world would that be??

 

[CrossCyed]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

I thought that guilt had to be proven, not innocents. We can all pray that doesn't change. What kind of world would that be??

In a court of law, but certainly not in someone's opinion.

 

[jbhtexas]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

A handful of people on CF are worked up beyond belief about this.

Precisely. And if (IMO it's more likely "when", but I could very well be wrong) the Bubu wagon train goes over the cliff, the irrationality is going to reach unfathomable heights as these posters try to save face. We are already seeing it in this thread.

 

[IcSyU]

Re: Pres. Leath addresses the Bubu Palo issue at Hilton today

What we know, as a fact today, is that he is not guilty of any criminal charges and he was found in violation of the student code of conduct.

Yes and no.

The "judge" in this case found him guilty. The "appeal judge" said not so fast my friend. The fact that two guys can't come to a consensus tells me it's not as cut and dried as it seems. This basically outlines why there are appeals.