Bubu Thread

[VeloClone]

A University Goes To Court To Keep A Player Off The Team

I like how they connect the three losses to Bubu's reinstatement, nevermind that two of those losses came before the stay was granted.
:spinny:

For God's sake reinstate him to the team so he quits using his ju-ju to alter our player's shots!

 

[Cyclonestate78]

hopefully no one will get their panties in a bunch over this question but was the woman ever identified publically?

I don't think she was ever publicly identified.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

A University Goes To Court To Keep A Player Off The Team

He places interesting emphasis in a couple of places...

 

[Cyclonestate78]

I like how they connect the three losses to Bubu's reinstatement, nevermind that two of those losses came before the stay was granted. :spinny:

ISU is now 1-3 with the patch to honor Johnny Orr on their jersey. The one win came courtesy of the terrific coaching by Scott Drew. Is ISU cursed?

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

no, but Bluford was the glue that held it all together I guess

 

[cycloneworld]

A University Goes To Court To Keep A Player Off The Team

Making Deadspin for this is never a good thing.

I haven't read this whole thread and I'll admit I don't really know what's going on here but my outsiders opinion is that ISU is really screwing this thing up.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

I don't think she was ever publicly identified.

In the press, or by the university, no. However, she grew up local, like Bubu and Spencer Cruise. Many in the community know who she is, and many students also know who she is.

 

[urb1]

It is public knowledge that the DCI found Bubu's DNA with the condom in the accuser's room. If there was any proof or testimony that the accuser was intoxicated, I would think that it fits the definition of sexual misconduct as defined by Iowa State. Does that not give justification for disciplinary action? Maybe Leath wanted to avoid the **** storm that would probably come if nothing was done by the university.

For every argument about how the AD and president don't back up athletes, there would be many more saying that they cover up sexual misconduct cases when an athlete is involved.

 

[VeloClone]

It would be interesting to get her take on the issue

It would be interesting but I think it would become a unmanageable, ugly firestorm with people going way over the top. I think it is best that she remain relatively anonymous.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

It is public knowledge that the DCI found Bubu's DNA with the condom in the accuser's room. If there was any proof or testimony that the accuser was intoxicated, I would think that it fits the definition of sexual misconduct as defined by Iowa State.

Under state law you can't sleep with anyone who has been drinking, spouse included. How many on here have had non-consensual sex?

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Making Deadspin for this is never a good thing.

I haven't read this whole thread and I'll admit I don't really know what's going on here but my outsiders opinion is that ISU is really screwing this thing up.

It does include the quote from Bubu that I referenced earlier.

"If they would have moved promptly and said we don't want you, I would have understood," Palo said. "I would have gone on my way. "With the timing of the decision, I didn't have a choice."

Bubu is not disputing that he violated the code of conduct. Bubu is not at odds with the decision that Leath handed down and the BOR supported. He is however appealing that based on the timing that the decision was handed down he was left no other course of action but to appeal to the courts if he wanted to play college basketball again and his only option at this point is to play for ISU.

 

[CYKOFAN]

I don't think she was ever publicly identified.

Pretty good gig. Press charges against somebody, lie and fabricate evidence to try to make them look guilty, destroy their reputation and completely disrupt their lives (getting some university officials to help you do it when the courts won't), then leave the state and nobody even has to know your name.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

Pretty good gig. Press charges against somebody, lie and fabricate evidence to try to make them look guilty, destroy their reputation and completely disrupt their lives (getting some university officials to help you do it when the courts won't), then leave the state and nobody even has to know your name.

...don't forget not get arrested for fabricating evidence

if "tons" of people know who it is i am curious why no one has ever typed her name, uploaded a facebook picture, etc.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

I still want to know how she avoided having charges brought against her for falsifying evidence. That fact indicates to me she might have some good connections.

 

[IAStubborn]

The court did NOT rule that.

So much factually incorrectness in this thread. It would really help if people knew what they were talking about before spouting off.

I believe he meant cause irreparable harm in the legal sense. They did rule in the stay that the university actions and delay in making a decision caused harm to Bubu and without the stay it would be irreparable.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Pretty good gig. Press charges against somebody, lie and fabricate evidence to try to make them look guilty, destroy their reputation and completely disrupt their lives (getting some university officials to help you do it when the courts won't), then leave the state and nobody even has to know your name.

To be fair... there are plenty of fans attacking Matt Thomas on these boards and directly on twitter because he hasn't been hitting as many 3's as they think he should be. What do you think those folks would have done to the alleged victim in this case had her identity been made public? It certainly would have gotten really ugly really fast.

 

[VeloClone]

...don't forget not get arrested for fabricating evidence

if "tons" of people know who it is i am curious why no one has ever typed her name, uploaded a facebook picture, etc.

I'm glad they haven't. No good would come of it.

 

[CYKOFAN]

It is public knowledge that the DCI found Bubu's DNA with the condom in the accuser's room. If there was any proof or testimony that the accuser was intoxicated, I would think that it fits the definition of sexual misconduct as defined by Iowa State. Does that not give justification for disciplinary action? Maybe Leath wanted to avoid the shitstorm that would probably come if nothing was done by the university.

For every argument about how the AD and president don't back up athletes, there would be many more saying that they cover up sexual misconduct cases when an athlete is involved.

Sorry, I just don't think there's going to be much public sympathy for a girl that has lied to and fabricated evidence, her story fell apart and the charges were dropped. As the public knows more of the details of this case, I'm guessing the public sentiment will be how can this girl get away with what she's done without getting charged. I don't know but that could be some or all of the reason she's left the state, reportedly with her boyfriend. And what she has done hurts legitimate sexual abuse cases. I think there's a lot of holes in the "avoid the sandstorm" excuse.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

To be fair... there are plenty of fans attacking Matt Thomas on these boards and directly on twitter because he hasn't been hitting as many 3's as they think he should be. What do you think those folks would have done to the alleged victim in this case had her identity been made public? It certainly would have gotten really ugly really fast.

i think everyone understand protecting the victim of assault. but when someone fabricates evidence and effectively starts a national conversation about how ISU has screwed things up she doesn't deserve that same protection.

 

[Cychotiic]

Pretty good gig. Press charges against somebody, lie and fabricate evidence to try to make them look guilty, destroy their reputation and completely disrupt their lives (getting some university officials to help you do it when the courts won't), then leave the state and nobody even has to know your name.

Too many people know who she is for it to not leak out eventually. Bubu said in a tweet that he could file a lawsuit for lying in court or something along those lines. My guess is he's waiting for this to be sorted out before going after that. Either that or he's just going to drop it. Who knows.

It's only a matter of time until her name comes out though imo