Breece Hall - First Round Odds

[PSYclone22]

Which helped themselves more at the combine? I didn't watch or follow it so don't know.

 

[AuH2O]

Both had very fast 40 times. Breece excelled in some of the other events, and his speed combined with being a little heavier might be seen as an advantage for him, but they're still the top two, and there's probably still debate about which one is the first off the board

There's a big difference in the passing game between the two. Breece with several times the production in the passing game, and he's proven to be pretty good at stonewalling a blitz.

 

[PSYclone22]

For what it's worth, both SI and SBNation released mock drafts today and he went first round in both.

 

[t-noah]

There are a lot of mock drafts. Here is one, all 7 rounds, ...
Edit: I removed this mock draft as it was not current. It was from Aug 7, 2021. My error.

Here is a better draft prediction, ranks 352 players, 55 pages!
Breece looks like the first RB here, position #39.

NFL DRAFT 2022 Overall Prospect Rankings - Page 4

Prospect rankings and projections for the NFL Draft 2022. Player and position breakdowns of the top prospects and averages of other scouting reports

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

I didn't scan all the pages but did notice there are 4 Cyclones on the second to last page, page 54.

NFL DRAFT 2022 Overall Prospect Rankings - Page 54

Prospect rankings and projections for the NFL Draft 2022. Player and position breakdowns of the top prospects and averages of other scouting reports

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

 

[Mr Janny]

There's a big difference in the passing game between the two. Breece with several times the production in the passing game, and he's proven to be pretty good at stonewalling a blitz.

Yeah, I think Breece is the best back in the draft, but if a team went into the combine already thinking that Walker was number 1, he performed well enough that their opinion might not have changed. That's the story of the NFL draft. The best player doesn't always go first. Not to mention, college/combine performance is not always an indicator of future success.

Breece will be taken when he's taken. All it takes is one team to fall in love with him

 

[cyclone1209]

The Bills would be a great situation for Breece. They have a pick near the bottom of round 1.

Josh Allen and breece in the same backfield would be outrageously fun to watch. Would be an instant Bills fan (somewhat am already)

 

[drmwevr08]

Not sure the Bills or Ravens (I've seen both here) are great. Maybe Breece is just better but even with the Ravens running, they don't make stars out of any single back. The Bills running game is generally puzzling at best. Would be great to be a bell cow back that can earn at least that one big deal. Thats a RBs best shot these days, no?

 

[t-noah]

For what it's worth, both SI and SBNation released mock drafts today and he went first round in both.

Thanks for that! Here are the links.

Here's What the 2022 NFL Draft Might Look Like If Teams Only Cared About Fantasy - Sports Illustrated

What is teams could only draft quarterbacks, running backs, receivers and tight ends?

www.si.com

NFL Mock Draft: Compete first round after the NFL combine

A lineman-heavy draft full of promise.

www.sbnation.com

 

[cyclonehomer]

Not directly related, but this video is pretty cool.

 

[BigJCy]

 

[Aclone]

Maybe Breece is just better but even with the Ravens running, they don't make stars out or any single back.

Breece will make a star out of himself.

 

[Aclone]

You know what would be fun? If a year from now, we’re debating whether Jirehl will go in the first or second round.

 

[t-noah]

Breece can fly dog

You know what would be fun? If a year from now, we’re debating whether Jirehl will go in the first or second round.

Jirehl has to feel better knowing now that he was behind the best running back in the class. Now we will be able to see what he can do.

 

[drmwevr08]

Breece will make a star out of himself.

Maybe there's something to that but usage matters too. The Raven's in particular seem dedicated to not letting one RB look too good. I don't know what's the best scenario but I hope he gets as much play as DM.

 

[cyclone1209]

Maybe there's something to that but usage matters too. The Raven's in particular seem dedicated to not letting one RB look too good. I don't know what's the best scenario but I hope he gets as much play as DM.

Man I can't wait for the draft.

Draftable guys I consider to be locks to be drafted now: Breece, Enyi Uwazurike, and Mike Rose. Enyi posted the highest vertical of any DT. Mike Rose looked really strong in the running drills apparently.

Probables: I would say Chase Allen showed out great, Charlie Kolar's college production was off the charts (that has to matter).

Outsiders with a chance: I'll keep Purdy in here, not probable he's drafted, but certainly a potential late round guy.

 

[PSYclone22]

The Athletic had Breece 55th overall to Cardinals today

Mock	Date	Pick
SI	3/7/2022​	27​
SB Nation	3/7/2022​	29​
The Athletic	3/8/2022​	55​

 

[VeloClone]

Thanks for that! Here are the links.

Here's What the 2022 NFL Draft Might Look Like If Teams Only Cared About Fantasy - Sports Illustrated

What is teams could only draft quarterbacks, running backs, receivers and tight ends?

www.si.com

NFL Mock Draft: Compete first round after the NFL combine

A lineman-heavy draft full of promise.

www.sbnation.com

I wouldn't put too much stock in that first one. The premise of it is what if NFL teams could only draft offensive skill players. That equates to only about 6 out of 24-26 starters on a team.

 

[Marcelason78]

I feel similar. If you go back and look at recent first round running backs, there's not a single one that doesn't have strikes against them. Whether it's significant injury or underperforming, or both, there are very few that have lived up to their pick.


Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Josh Jacobs
Saquon Barkley
Rashaad Penny
Sony Michel
Leonard Fournette
Christian McCaffrey
Ezekiel Elliott
(Not including Najee Harris yet)

Are these players bad? No. But how many of them are truly worth the pick they were taken with?
And yes, I realize that many first round picks at other positions don't pan out, but that list is literally all of the running backs taken in the first round since 2016, and there's not a single one you can't make a case for being not worth their pick.

Your point stands, but I'd argue McCaffrey was worthy of a first round pick.

 

[Mr Janny]

Your point stands, but I'd argue McCaffrey was worthy of a first round pick.

When he's healthy, sure. But he hasn't been healthy in two years. That goes to my point. Running backs take a massive amount of punishment, and are at high risk to be injured. Carolina sunk a ton of money into McCaffrey's contract and so far he's vastly underperformed on it. Yes that's due to injury, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter why. There's a reason that there's trade talk swirling around him.

Look at it this way. How many running backs who are given big contracts end up living up to them? In the modern era, it's a very short list.

 

[Marcelason78]

When he's healthy, sure. But he hasn't been healthy in two years. That goes to my point. Running backs take a massive amount of punishment, and are at high risk to be injured. Carolina sunk a ton of money into McCaffrey's contract and so far he's vastly underperformed on it. Yes that's due to injury, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter why. There's a reason that there's trade talk swirling around him.

The injury argument is obvious, but even when healthy, the other backs are your list are not difference makers. McCaffrey is.