Agreed. Pipe down kids and continue to let others make billions on the backs of your "athletic gifts."
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Agreed. Pipe down kids and continue to let others make billions on the backs of your "athletic gifts."
Sorry if I don't shed a tear over the types of "problems" athletes have.
Here's a thought. Don't participate if you don't like what you are getting out of it!
College athletes are NOT victims no matter how much you want to pretend they might be.
(Notice how all your other examples are truly those that are victims of events they can't control.)
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I was obviously using hyperbole to illustrate how ridiculous your stance is. And even in the absence of mockery, your point still makes no sense. Because a person isn't being forced to participate, they should have no input on how the system is run? Or allowed to attempt to make improvements/changes to the system? Again, ridiculous.
CycloneErik
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It's always worth remembering that each generation sees the young one coming up as the source of trouble and instability all the time. Even though people have always transferred schools and changed majors, it's a problem now because of those darn kids.
Nobody wants to say what a mockery of the idea of student-athlete is the one-and-done players. Nobody seems to want to do anything about that--but, yeah, draw your swords over transfers. Particular graduate transfers--those who earned their degree, did everything they're supposed to...
I say let athletes sign scholarship agreements. Those scholarship agreements can last for any number of years (1,2,3 or 4). Athletes can transfer after their agreement is up with no repurcussions (assuming they have passed enough credits to be considered a full time student). If they want to transfer before their agreement is up, they have to sit out a year at their new school.
On the other side, a school can choose not to renew a scholarship once the agreement is done.
There are risks and benefits to both sides. An athlete on a 1 year agreement risks losing a scholarship after 1 year, but benefits by being able to test a school for 1 year and then transfer with no re-purcussions. The school risks a player transferring early, but benefits on being able to dump them off scholarship if they don't pan out.
On the other side, a school can choose not to renew a scholarship once the agreement is done.
There are risks and benefits to both sides. An athlete on a 1 year agreement risks losing a scholarship after 1 year, but benefits by being able to test a school for 1 year and then transfer with no re-purcussions. The school risks a player transferring early, but benefits on being able to dump them off scholarship if they don't pan out.
Yes and the fact you couldn't draw effective analogies (hyperbolic or not, the ones you laid out are all circumstances with actual victims) , says something.
Nothing I posted says they can't work to improve their situation.
Just don't expect to me to be sympathetic of their "plight"....because it is nonsense.
If they don't like the circumstances of the GAME they get a free ride to play, then they can tap out and let those with less of an entitlement attitude step in and happily take their places.
It's disgusting to me that Bob Bowlsby makes $2.5 million a year, guys like Bob Stoops and Bill Self make close to $5 million, and we still have people like capitalcityguy berating the athletes who create this value for trying to organize in an attempt to get anything that resembles fair compensation.
The reason that athletic administrators and coaches make obscene amounts of money is because there is nowhere else for that money to go. The NCAA has successfully set the ceiling for compensation to those who create the value (athletes) incredibly low, and the non-profit AD offices need to clear the money somehow. So the market rate for coaching salaries balloons to ridiculous levels.
The reason that athletic administrators and coaches make obscene amounts of money is because there is nowhere else for that money to go. The NCAA has successfully set the ceiling for compensation to those who create the value (athletes) incredibly low, and the non-profit AD offices need to clear the money somehow. So the market rate for coaching salaries balloons to ridiculous levels.
My only thought is how rough the "game" is on many who play. Football specifically puts the athletes is danger for a catastrophic injury on almost every play. Throw in CTE and a fairly high chance of some lingering physical defect and I can't blame the athlete wanting a bigger piece of the lie....I mean pie.
Victim? Maybe not. Employee at risk? I believe so
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But Syrian refugees.
Unlike the players who are just playing a GAME, the coaches are doing SERIOUS BUSINESS and should be able to negotiate their market value.
Then decline your free education, the spotlight, chance to travel, be on TV, play the game you love in front of huge crowds, and don't play.
Let someone else have that scholly that doesn't have class envy issues.
Or just let them share in some of the money they help make like the coaches and administrators. Or should they also be given a small, fixed, and nonnegotiable compensation?
Cyclonepride
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Maybe they can band their money together, build a stadium to play in, buy their uniforms, market their games to fill up the stadium, and then they can reap the profits.
The one and done thing isn't a college rule. Why would Bowlsby address an NBA rule?
Nowhere else for the money to???? Need to clear the money somehow??? I have a strong feeling that you don't understand non (better label is not-for) profit organizations. Fb and mbb coaching salaries have ballooned because there has become a rush to the top and teams are willing to spend money hoping that coach increases their income.
These programs are swimming in money. That's why facilities are lavish and coaches of college sports teams can make $5 million a year. The programs have a ton of money that they've colluded to not spend on the players, so when they compete for coaches, there's a wildly upward spiral for salaries. Don't tell me that I don't understand the system when this is Econ 101 over here.
