Billy Gillispie

The more I think about it, the more I like it. Of course, this means it probably won't happen but that's another story.

ISU is not going to be able to bring in a perfect hire, I think everyone can agree on this. It is either going be an unproven commodity or somewhat damaged goods. Gillespie at least seems more like a dented can and not spoiled food. At least the knock on him is that he focused so much on his career that his personal life went to hell, not that he only got things done with major recruiting violations (at least as far I know, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

Really, ISU is a great set-up for him. If the McDermott era has proven anything it is that the AD and fanbase are patient. He would be given time to build a winner without having to kill himself here.

So what you are saying is: we are OK with botulism, we just don't want herpes.
 
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Here's the deal fellas. You can hope and dream all you want that Billy G is coming to Ames, if that's what desperation makes you do.

But do you really think that JP and GG have any inclination at all to bring in the coach of the program that was at the center of the Wes Johnson 'tampering' situation?

The only people at the center of the WJ saga were WJ's brother, GMAC, and WJ.

FYI.... I think JP and GG would be willing to bring in anybody that can revive our basketball program from where it currently sits..... on the brink of death.
 
Yeah, well, I'm just glad people still care enough to talk about it given the hole we are in. The problem is, if coach is retained I'm not so sure near as many people will care enough to talk about it or go to games any longer until he is removed....or gasp, makes significant improvements to his own performance.


This is the truest statement on here.

All of the people that are on here slamming everybody's suggestions, are the same ones that tell everyone how ****** Iowa State is.

Well, if Greg is retained (and I think he will be), watch the little basketball interest there is here dry up.

At least that way they can all sit together and gather consensus on all the reasons we don't win, because it certainly can't be Greg's fault.
 
So what you are saying is: we are OK with botulism, we just don't want herpes.

Is that what the deal is with dented cans at the grocery store? I never knew.

I was more or less trying to say that while I understand that this hire might look bad, I think it would probably end up ok.
 
At least that way they can all sit together and gather consensus on all the reasons we don't win, because it certainly can't be Greg's fault.

This.

Greg is doing the best he can.... we are lining up 3 juco kids from Iowa for next year. He obviously has the diagram for success in the BIG XII figured out now. :jimlad:
 
I don't know who the jerk is with the gun to your head forcing you to read this thread, but you deserve better than that. If you can let us know your location, we will help you by getting the authorities to you ASAP to help you out with this *******.

He probably can't say anything.

Cydkar, blink once if you're fine, twice if you need help.
 
Got some proof of that "tampering"? I haven't seen, read, or heard any facts from anyone on this subject yet. I doubt you have much to add to that.

You must have forgot that Kentucky was on the list that Wes could not go, because we gave him a conditional release.

Not a chance in hell that this happens.
 
Is that what the deal is with dented cans at the grocery store? I never knew.

I was more or less trying to say that while I understand that this hire might look bad, I think it would probably end up ok.

Actually I think I mixed my own metaphor. Botulism I believe is the cans that are swollen. Dented cans were probably just dropped. Sorry. I just wanted to say "herpes."
 
You must have forgot that Kentucky was on the list that Wes could not go, because we gave him a conditional release.

Not a chance in hell that this happens.

In the article yesterday about WJ it said that the terms of his conditional release were that he could not transfer to a school on our schedule the following seasons. Also based on that article I don't remember Kentucky being on the list of potential schools that WJ was even looking at transferring to.
 
In the article yesterday about WJ it said that the terms of his conditional release were that he could not transfer to a school on our schedule the following seasons. Also based on that article I don't remember Kentucky being on the list of potential schools that WJ was even looking at transferring to.


Iowa State Releases Johnson To Eight Schools - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports
 
It seems to me that ISU fans are the only ones who think we don't have (or wouldn't take) a shot at Gillespie. His name has came up multiple times from my friends who are KU and MU fans when discussing our next basketball coach. So he looks like a good fit to outsiders at least.
 
The only people at the center of the WJ saga were WJ's brother, GMAC, and WJ.

FYI.... I think JP and GG would be willing to bring in anybody that can revive our basketball program from where it currently sits..... on the brink of death.

Really? you don't think any coaches of schools were talkin to his brother before he left iowa state?

you guys are oblivious. Gillispie is one of the reasons that Mac hasn't got it done, he took our star player right out from underneath us. We were set up to do some things that year, and the biggest piece to the puzzle up and left.
 
Billy Gillspie, Bill Clinton or Bill Cosby...I don't care at this point. I have just lost all hope in this program going anywhere on Greg McDermott. Every year we spend with him at the helm is a year we fall further behind the competition. We have to try something new, because the way this team has played this year, and the way this program has trended lately is alarming.
 
In the article yesterday about WJ it said that the terms of his conditional release were that he could not transfer to a school on our schedule the following seasons. Also based on that article I don't remember Kentucky being on the list of potential schools that WJ was even looking at transferring to.

oh you mean the article written for syracuse.com. You mean interviews with Wes' brother and 'cuse assistants didn't come out and say what actually happened??
 

On May 10, Johnson packed up his belongings and left his apartment at Iowa State. A few days later, he informed McDermott that he had decided to transfer to another school. The decision surprised McDermott, who flew to Johnson’s home in Corsicana, Texas, to try to convince Johnson to stay, but to no avail.
Iowa State officials agreed to release Johnson from his scholarship commitment, but on condition that his list of schools didn’t include an opponent on the upcoming schedule.
His first two choices were Arkansas and Connecticut.
“Syracuse wasn’t on our initial list,â€￾ Carroll said. “We literally didn’t even think about Syracuse.â€￾
On May 28, Johnson announced an expanded list: Arkansas, Connecticut, Marquette, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Villanova and West Virginia.
There might not have been a need for a list except that Michigan State, a school that Johnson really liked, didn’t have a scholarship available.
“Syracuse got on the second list,â€￾ Carroll said. “They just came out of nowhere.â€￾
 
On May 10, Johnson packed up his belongings and left his apartment at Iowa State. A few days later, he informed McDermott that he had decided to transfer to another school. The decision surprised McDermott, who flew to Johnson’s home in Corsicana, Texas, to try to convince Johnson to stay, but to no avail.
Iowa State officials agreed to release Johnson from his scholarship commitment, but on condition that his list of schools didn’t include an opponent on the upcoming schedule.
His first two choices were Arkansas and Connecticut.
“Syracuse wasn’t on our initial list,†Carroll said. “We literally didn’t even think about Syracuse.â€
On May 28, Johnson announced an expanded list: Arkansas, Connecticut, Marquette, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Villanova and West Virginia.
There might not have been a need for a list except that Michigan State, a school that Johnson really liked, didn’t have a scholarship available.
“Syracuse got on the second list,†Carroll said. “They just came out of nowhere.â€

Just to clarify for everyone, the seciont you pasted in isn't from the cyclones.com article.

Do you really think that Wes is going to come out and say that Kentucky was his first choice with all that was going on and the fact he wasn't released there anyway? Not to mention I have heard murmurs in the past (take it fwiw)that had Wes tried to go to Kentucky then ISU would've acted on the "tampering" of Kentucky through the NCAA.
 
oh you mean the article written for syracuse.com. You mean interviews with Wes' brother and 'cuse assistants didn't come out and say what actually happened??

Neither did GMAC. Did GMAC come out and say that he had called out our star player in front of the team and called him soft etc? Did he tell everyone how he rode him in practice while he was injured and made him do extra sprints when he had an obvious leg injury?

Right.... GMAC is always the victim. I am sure the other 40 players that have bailed on the program would all give GMAC glowing recommendations. :no: