Big 12 Spring Meetings Summary
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I think networks have historically overspent trying to get into the game and some are finding that it is not worth the coin so they aren't willing to play the game at that level of cost anymore.
You may be right, the Big 10 numbers that are starting to leak out are less than what many were estimating they were going to be. The talk last year was 100 to 110 million per school, the talk now is 80 to 85 million at least at the start.
Media has continued to splinter into smaller and smaller market share, and outside of Apple TV getting involved in the NFL and a little in MLB, streaming right now as a major competent is not occurring.
How well the Big 12 does in its TV negations is anyone's guess right now, I think Cincy is the jewel in the teams we added, BYU is solid, it will all come down to the numbers that Houston and UCF can bring in. Both schools struggle drawing fans to their games, was that because they were in a G5 league or was it because their fans just do not go to the games? Houston is more of an NFL town, and there is just so much to do in Central Florida, how many want to go to a football game in the fall?
Yes they do the issue is the scheduling. OSU has P5 games scheduled every year thru like 2037 other than 2030 and 2031. OU will have some open slots so it would take OSU pushing/canceling some series which I wouldn't want to do considering those home/home's are Bama, Oregon, Arky, Nebraska, and Colorado
The question is, will the state house let it die? I'd prefer to lose this game in a heartbeat but I just dont think it will happen.
BYU has an audience spread all across the country - even Hawaii is strong BYU country. They are a national brand similar to Notre Dame but probably not to that scale.
The bolded part may be the understatement of the year. Yes BYU has strong viewing with Morman's everywhere, but how many causal fans do they bring in? My guess is not many, while ND gets both sides, those that love the school, and those that watch, hoping they get hammered. The same cannot be said for BYU.
Where did you see projections of $100-$110mill per year per school? I guess I could've missed it but I don't remember seeing/reading any projections that high with the upcoming media deal.
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An 8 game conference schedule allows for more scheduling freedom. Not only should Oklahoma State want Bedlam to continue, the Big 12 needs it to.
Yeah but until this last year, they’ve had the same problem there that we’ve had with ToE. Playing in those games is different than actually winning those games. We have to WIN those games.
I don't think it has been finalized. Even with an 8 game conference schedule, we're still increasing inventory:
9 weeks x 5 matchups = 45 games
8 weeks x 6 matchups = 48 games
Part of the SEC's recipe for success has been getting as many teams bowl eligible as possible. We allow Kansas to schedule 4 cupcakes for instance, they only need 2 conference wins to get back to the post season. More bowl teams = more money.
When I see the USFL or whatever that is they're playing now, I can't believe the networks would walk from BYU/oSu, Farmegeddon, TCU/Baylor, Cincinnati/WVU, et al as somehow less interesting and valuable. The pie isn't getting larger. Inflation has diminished the real dollar value of the existing contract. Whatever the outcome, it will be fascinating to watch unfold. And I'm betting the B12 does way better than forecasted by today's naysayers.
I've said it 100 times on this site..
But the Big 12 should do 4 pods of 3 teams and start a 2-round playoff for the conference title. Those would be valuable inventory and differentiate the conference from the usually bad games on in the final week of the regular season.
Mich-OSU has the Noon slot on Fox.
Iron Bowl has the afternoon slot on CBS. That could change with ESPN/ABC getting the SEC rights.
Big 12 could start a "playoff" in week 13 at 3 and 7. I think those games would be HEAVILY watched versus matchups like the Egg Bowl and Wiscy-Minny
ISU-KU-KSU
BYU-BU-TCU
Tech-OSU-UH
WVU-Cincy-UCF
Cincy versus OSU in the first game
ISU at BYU/BU in the nightcap
*Based on 2021 standings
But the Big 12 should do 4 pods of 3 teams and start a 2-round playoff for the conference title. Those would be valuable inventory and differentiate the conference from the usually bad games on in the final week of the regular season.
Mich-OSU has the Noon slot on Fox.
Iron Bowl has the afternoon slot on CBS. That could change with ESPN/ABC getting the SEC rights.
Big 12 could start a "playoff" in week 13 at 3 and 7. I think those games would be HEAVILY watched versus matchups like the Egg Bowl and Wiscy-Minny
ISU-KU-KSU
BYU-BU-TCU
Tech-OSU-UH
WVU-Cincy-UCF
Cincy versus OSU in the first game
ISU at BYU/BU in the nightcap
*Based on 2021 standings
Not only is it a good idea but it would look like the SEC was copying you if you implemented it first
I don’t get the sense that the Big 12 brass are kinky enough to ever try that.
There was a crazy bill from a guy last year that would include UNI in that as well, as in all three must play each other in every sport.
Just horrible. Not something the legislature should be involved in but damn sure will be. It's a joke.
Premium live sports is still a very hot commodity to have in a content portfolio and the competition for it has been heightened by the ongoing streaming wars for prime content amongst Amazon, Apple, Paramount, Peacock, ESPN+ and Netflix (who won't do live sports). The reason why the new B10 deal won't be higher than originally predicted is due to their reticence to putting a significant % of their inventory on streaming platforms outside of BTN. The B12 and P12 will be cutting their own throats if they have the same thought process. And it would be suicidal for the P12 to keep any FB inventory on PACN.
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