Let's just hope none of those three aren't even near the midwest this weekend
Big 12 Refs Strike Again
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Let's just hope none of those three aren't even near the midwest this weekend
Brent Blum @brentblum 11m11 minutes ago
Just saw the push off thanks to a Vine video. That's a push off and OMG Scott Drew's suit.
Thats all you need to know.
3truefans is more of a ref apologist than Blum and the ESPN crew. That's saying something. It was a bad call but not on the level of the KU game two years ago. I can live with it but that gets called more often than not, 100% of the time in b12 play that's a foul against KU. It's why KU fake wins the league so often.
BDJ's play had 2-3 points taken off the board. Zebras def cost us some points but wvu officiating was still much worse.
WVU game officiating was much much worse overall.
Taking away BDJ's 3 point play was probably a worse call than a no call on a push off, but that's a foul. It's a foul every time if KU is on the defender's jersey.
On BDJ's play if you call a foul there it's a 3 point play, he was already moving up toward the basket when the collision happened.
Yep. The sole reason KU has 'fake' won at least a share of the Big 12 title since Friends was still on the air is the officials. It has nothing to do with Self with being a good coach, and having the most talent in the league almost every year.
I don't know if I've ever seen that not called a shooting foul either. That was definitely the weirdest call of the game...plus it took a basket and foul shot away.
They'd have won most of them but some of them are definitely fake. Two years ago they didn't "share" with KSU. KSU won it outright and KU only shared because the officials handed it to them. Did you not watch it? It was obvious.
If you say that the refs didn't cost us the game tonight, you are absolutely the worst. ISU had the lead, Baylor cheated by pushing off in an obvious fashion which got a player open and allowed him to shoot a wide open 15 footer. ISU then got off a desperation runner.
People always talk about how a team could always overcome a call, but in tonight's circumstance all ISU could do was get a rushed jumpshot.
Obviously ISU could have scored more points earlier in the game, but they did enough tonight to win. That's all you should have to do. Is play well enough to win by 1. Tonight, ISU would've had to play well enough to win by 3 to have won in regulation. Simple as that.
People always talk about how a team could always overcome a call, but in tonight's circumstance all ISU could do was get a rushed jumpshot.
Obviously ISU could have scored more points earlier in the game, but they did enough tonight to win. That's all you should have to do. Is play well enough to win by 1. Tonight, ISU would've had to play well enough to win by 3 to have won in regulation. Simple as that.
I'd say vs WVU we had to play 10-15 points better and they did overcome that barely. Might sound crazy but I can live with tonight's blown call on that last shot (and those of you saying it wasn't blown, cute coping mechanism) but I can't forgive how irrational the foul calls were in that win @WVU.
I'm a KU fan; that call was bad. Hell, I'll even say KU should have lost that game, and subsequently the Big 12 title. You implied that KU wins the league because of the officials 'so often', though. Bad calls happen all the time, throughout the year, to every team. Can you point out another year where KU would have 100%, without a doubt lost the Big 12 because of poor officiating? Do our big donors have the refs paid off? Is there some secret, evil plot within the Big 12 to keep KU champions?
I don't think it's a conspiracy myself, I do believe that referees have a preconceived notion of the quality of basketball a team like Kansas plays and I think that KU gets the benefit of the doubt in a subconcious way, very much the same way home teams get an edge. I don't belive refs call games in favor of the home team on purpose, I just think the preconceived notion of home teams usually playing better nudges them over. A little bit is all it takes to make a big difference.
The biggest thing for KU is that they take their name with them on the road and get an even bigger advantage at home.
I think ISU has built a similar mystique with Hilton Magic and usually gets the calls in Hilton against everyone but Kansas. I think there's a reason for that.
I don't watch every Kansas game so I can't say exactly how many fake wins they get against teams other than ISU. I know there is no "streak" because KSU won more games two years ago. The game in question wasn't even "a" bad call, it was three horrendous calls in the final 90 seconds, two of them in the final five seconds.
Kansas is the most dominant team in the league, most talented, Self is an amazing coach, drastically better than Roy ever was and a much better person than Roy ever was. But they get the beneficial calls in addition to all this, they just do and it's very obvious.
Kansas gets that push off called tonight, ISU doesn't. It really wasn't that bad of a call tonight compared to what I expect vs KU with things like dead ball 3 pointers and such.
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The KANSAS on the front of the jersey, may very well sway an official from time to time. I don't agree that KU is the beneficiary because of the officials in every game, as your post implies. I also think the claim that so often KU's Big 12 titles are 'fake' is BS. I don't want to derail this thread into a ******* match. Looking forward to the game on Saturday.
i have less of a problem with this than what should have been a foul a possession or so before when mckay should have drawn a foul when he was getting hacked.
The older I get, the less I blame officiating for my favorite team's losses.
And I continue to get older.
And I continue to get older.
I take HFCS calling me a ref apologist with a grain of salt the size of Georges Niang, last season Georges Niang. I'm fairly confident you blame the refs when you burn your toast or hit every red light on the way to work.
If you think officiating was the only reason ISU lost, then your even more worse.
