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Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by MuskieCy, Nov 5, 2019.
I didn’t realize Maryland, Seton Hall and Auburn were mid tier?
Are they top-20 programs? Is such a list just the current rankings?
Relax, although it was amiss in terms of recruiting, it wasn’t an anti-Prohm or inaccurate statement.
Always better to judge by the offers not the ranking especially for late risers. If the staff went by rankings and not their evaluation Tyrese wouldn't be a clone. Then again you may have been concerned with his signing 2 years ago too.
Auburn, Marquette, Maryland and Notre Dame recruit and get 4-5 star talent and wouldn't be offering and actively recruiting Dubar late if he wasn't at that potential talent level.
Sleep easy, he has talent.
They aren't top ten type blue bloods, and they aren't power conference bottom feeders. That leaves them as mid tier power conference programs. Teams that will make the tourney and show up in a top 25 poll more seasons than not, but not perennial contenders.
I would call that something better than mid tier. Iowa is a mid tier program. Those programs are on whatever level is above that.
I would say Tyrese was stronger for a ranking than offers. Tyrese didn't have a great offer list. Minny, Nebby, and Cincy for majors. Was just outside the top 150 for rankings though.
So by this definition you aren't excited about a recruit with mid-tier offers committing to your mid-tier school?
Elbows too pointy... don't want.
Seton Hall has made the dance 3 times since 2000, they have advanced past the opening weekend once. Auburn has 4 tourney appearances since 2000, with last year's final 4 run as their only trip past the opening weekend.
Iowa has 7 appearances in that span, but no trips beyond the first weekend.
I would say those schools are very much in the same tier.
Maryland has 12 bids with 4 runs beyond the same weekend. Probably on a higher tier, but not quite elite.
ISU for reference has 10 bids and 3 trips beyond opening weekend. Considering that time span covers the dark years of Morgan and McD, we compare pretty favorably to all these programs.
It just seems convenient, that's all.
Is Iowa in the mid-tier of the P5 conferences If so, Fran is doing a hell of a job.
Imo Iowa peaks into the mid-tier, but I don’t know if they are mid-tier.
Odd question, but does one have to reach a certain status on CF to get access to the 'Dumb' button? I see it from time to time but don't have it as an option.
Being in the final 4 last year, and being arguably robbed of playing in the Championship imo puts them as a top 20 program currently.
That's a lot of Scrabble points!
Kansas State has 9 bids with 2 Elite 8's.
Marquette has 12 bids with a F4, 2 E8, 3 S16.
Notre Dame has 12 bids with 2 E8, 3 S16.
Wichita State has 8 bids with a F4 and 3 S16.
We shouldn't count recruiting ranking the same as regular season results. Just getting 5 star recruits doesn't directly lead to wins. You need a certain talent level to win the conerence and go far in the NCAA's but to see it realized they need to develop and be coached properly and get the wins.
Maryland and Seton Hall regularly recruit 5 stars and have players leave early for the NBA. Getting a recruit over those schools is a win in recruiting. EIU for example may "recruit" a few 5 stars but doesn't get their commitment thus beating Fran out for a recruit is less impressive.
Nothing to be ashamed about. I'm insecure about mine.