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A Thread About Actual Coach Candidates

ripvdub said:
I thought bob stitt would be a good hire, but 90-57 isn't that great of a record, it's solid... I'd rather get a younger guy.
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Yeah, the more I have looked at him, the more he seems to fall down the list. Perhaps let someone hire him as an OC or MAC coach and see but he's up there in age as well.
 
I'd be interested in sitake at Utah as well, 6 years off pretty solid defense and a bit out off by a one year contract. I'd love him at dc and manning at oc

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/1811342-155/sitake-utah-hill-football-assistants-past


Sitake is bedrock to the Ute program. He carries a big stick, having garnered the loyalty and respect of other assistant coaches and particularly the players. He’s a great recruiter, a dynamic motivator, probably the best identifier and evaluator of prospective talent on the staff. He delegates well and his absolute strength is building relationships. The players trust him and they play hard for him.
And now, Utah stands to lose him.
A few weeks ago, I wrote a column that rings clear to anyone who has observed Sitake through the years: He will be a head coach at some point in the future. Nobody knows exactly when. But because of the way his contract was handled, or mishandled, there’s a strong chance Sitake will bolt after this season. Maybe some other assistants will leave, too.
And not just for a head-coaching job. Don’t be surprised if the highly regarded Sitake makes a lateral move as a defensive coordinator somewhere else. And if he does, he might take some help with him. As mentioned, there are assistants tied to him — and players, too.
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Mike Leach. Mark Mangino. OC from Michigan State Dave Warner. Craig Bohl (and entire staff) maybe. Memphis head coach Justin Fuente. If you can't go big, go home. But I agree that CPR gets another year.
 
Tre4ISU said:
1. PJ Fleck (WMU) Experience- He's 34 years old. He was hired at WMU after being a G. assistant at OSU, WR coach under Kill at NIU, WR coach at Rutger under Schiano, and then WR coach at Tampa Bay. Pretty solid group of mentors there. He played at NIU and had a short stint in the NFL.
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And you thought the KState Willy Wildcat video was bad...

[video=youtube;IgHyEbMQ-OE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgHyEbMQ-OE[/video]
 
Just wanted to give props to the OP. Good thread, and I like the candidates you suggested. Thanks for doing a little research on each. Some may be far fetched, but in a situation like this you never really know unless you try.
 
Tre4ISU said:
First off, I don't believe Rhoads will be fired this year. I don't believe it's feasible and I believe that JP still has a belief that he can do it. I may or may not, leaning towards may not believe the same thing. However, since people are posting about this and bringing up utterly ridiculous conclusions, I figured I'd throw something together on some actual coaches with a chance to be offered the job and a chance they would take said job for whatever reasons. There are people I will either miss or not have paid attention to.

1. PJ Fleck (WMU) Experience- He's 34 years old. He was hired at WMU after being a G. assistant at OSU, WR coach under Kill at NIU, WR coach at Rutger under Schiano, and then WR coach at Tampa Bay. Pretty solid group of mentors there. He played at NIU and had a short stint in the NFL.

Pros- Very young. Recruited the best MAC class in 12 years at WMU according to Rivals in the midst of a 1 win season. Took a crap program from 1-11 to where it is today with a bunch of young guys. His top passer is a Soph, top RB a freshman and top Wrs are Sophomores. Seems like a fun guy who relates.

Cons-Would likely move on. The only thing that would possibly keep him is the fact he doesn't seem to shy away from challenges. Still, he's 34 and with success will have too many opportunities to pass them all up. He was hired as OC at NIU at one point and left a day later for a WR position at Tampa indicating to me loyalty isn't so big since NIU is his alma mater.
Did this shady thing when he was hired when he pulled scholarships weeks before signing day. Don't really care but still.

Likelihood of translation- High. History of turning a poor program with little tradition of winning around. Also recruited successfully to this school.

Likelihood of coming here-High. He would jump at a BCS gig.

2. Tom Herman- We know his history

Pros-Just dumptrucked MSU. Has advanced his offense under Urb. Also a young guy.

Cons-Would certainly move on as soon as possible.

Likelihood of translation- Moderate. I think his offense would be fine but the usual questions apply to him as a Coordinator. Could he get the other side of the ball in line. He has also never shown recruiting success at a place that isn't in a talent rich environment or is a national power.

3. Scott Frost (OC Oregon)- We know about his career at NU. Grad assistant at NU and KSU. Was then the LBer coach at UNI and then Co DC. Was WR coach at OU before becoming QB coach and OC. Coached Mariotta. Was OC for largest yardage output in school history which is kind of impressive considering where he is and the fact he did it in one less game.

Pros- Innovative offense based on killing safeties. Another young guy who seems to relate. Coached the Heisman front runner. From the midwest which would perhaps induce loyalty outside of a Nebraska offer.

Cons- Would go to Nebraska in a heartbeat.

Likelihood to translate- Moderate. Another OC, however, contrary to Herman he has been a DC at some level which may help.

4. Bob Stitt- From Nebraska. Was OC at Harvard. Currently head coach at the Colorado School of Mines which, if you haven't noticed is a good school. Had a guy win the equivalent of the Heisman there. Was put on the map by Dana Holgerson when Holgo stole the fly sweep from him. Runs a heavy option spread while taking pre snap decisions away from the QB and relying on simple execution. Every pass play has a route for any defense.

Pros- His offense works very well. Is a very progressive football mind and does things he wants. Some things may already be being done but he comes up with most on his own. Uses fourth down a lot. Seems like a pretty humble and decent guy who would fit in with the culture. A school that gives him a shot will likely

Cons- Has never been in anything approximating a high profile job with expectations. Always low level.

Likelihood to translate- His offense would work. The issue becomes everything else. Can he recruit? Can he hire capable assistants for this level? I don't know. He's a huge risk with a very high ceiling and a very low floor.

5. Jim McElwain (CSU)- Was OC under Saban. Turned around a pretty bad CSU program in quick order and is currently 9-1.

Pros- Saban, man. Seems to recruit well. Has turned a program around. Seems like a good offensive mind. Would likely bring a different system to the Big 12.

Cons- May not come here even if offered. He's making good money and will be on the short list of places like Florida or any other SEC team. Would be risky for him to put his reputation on the line in a place like Ames.

Likelihood to translate- High. He turned around a bad program without any inherent advantages.

Here are a few more guys who I just don't think would come here though they are legitimate names:

Narduzzi, Smart, Morris

There are a ton of guys out there to look at. There are guys who people will dismiss like Doug Nussmier who I think would take the job and a case could be made for them. I just felt like listing my top 5 guys tonight and I'm sure JP would go a totally different direction. Fleck is my guy simply due to the similarities in programs right now and his ability to out recruit everyone at his level. That's where you have to start. You have to be able to out recruit the KUs, TTs, KSUs and WVUs of the world.
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PJ Fleck sounds like an interesting candidate. Very impressive. McElwain is not a feasible candidate since his team lost to FCS team NDSU and that is not allowed under any circumstances. So mark him off the list. And it appears that PJ Fleck lost to FCS team Nicholls. We can not have any coaches that have lost to FCS teams I have been told......it is not allowed or tolerated.
 
Iowa State needs a head coach from another school to be its head coach. The assistant coach route has proven itself over and over to not work at Iowa State. Head coaching experience brings intangibles that OC or DC cannot. I'd rather have a head coach with tons wins and some longevity from a smaller conf. than a bright shiny OC from the SEC.
 
Luth4Cy said:
I'm actually higher on Herman's co-OC, Ed Warriner than I am on Herman, mostly because he has an offensive line background and has spent some more time in the midwest.

Bob Stitt would be interesting and I'd be all for it, but he'd have to have a plan in place to succeed similar to what Chip Kelly had when moving to the NFL. By that I mean he'd have to hire assistants with a lot of experience at this level, and capable of developing players as well as recruiting. His hiring of assistants would be much more important than most coaches because of his inexperience.
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Stay away from Warriner, as a Jayhawk, that's who I want as our next head coach. I think he would keep Bowen on as DC and I really liked him both times he was at KU.
 
Not just defensive coordinator at ASU, What about Mike Norvell offensive coordinator ASU..
In addition to longtime mentor Todd Graham, Norvell's time as the passing game coordinator at Tulsa included collaborations with Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn and Clemson offensive coordinator Chad Morris
 
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