6th Man
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Nah. Texas A&M does the 12th man and then the Seahawks stole it from them. It's a pretty lame thing.
The sixth man was the shirt waving fan at the last two games. That was great.
I don't mean to sound elitist / "things were better when I was a student", but "Hilton Magic" has gotten overused. As is usually the case with such things, the term has gotten adopted as a marketing term and now every time ISU plays at home and the crowd is loud, it's Hilton Magic according to the broadcast. HM is a rare, uncommon thing, it's hard to define, more of a "You know it when you see it" type of thing. Down 10 against #2 Houston with 7:00 to go and you somehow hold them to four points for the rest of the game and Heise and Batemon hit several stone-cold threes to win by three while the team can't manage better than a coin-flip on free throws, that's a little HM for sure.
Blowing KU's doors off by 18 and being up 20+ for most of the game, no HM there if you ask me, that's just a good old-fashioned belt-to-ass, no magic needed.
Blowing KU's doors off by 18 and being up 20+ for most of the game, no HM there if you ask me, that's just a good old-fashioned belt-to-ass, no magic needed.
Meh. It's great for the notoriety of the program. They can say it all they want as long as I never hear about Niang and Noel playing together again.
I get Houston purposely plays physical and it works for them...but it is frustrating! In the first half it felt like a rugby match...they grab and push non-stop...they know the refs aren't going to call all of those fouls so they just keep fouling!
The amount of contact they are allowed to get away with going after ORBs is crazy. Grabbing a guy in an established rebounding position from behind and laterally displacing him out of your way is not a legal basketball move yet they do it incessantly and rarely get called for it. I'm sure lots of teams (including us) do this and I just notice it a lot with Houston because I'm looking for specifically, but they really do a lot of it and it's super-annoying to me.
I don’t disagree if we want to get technical but every time our home environment is described as “magic” in front of a national TV audience it’s good for our program, in my opinion.
TJ was on SVP’s opener last night talking about our fans and crowd environment. Duke-Syracuse was an afterthought on ESPN programming late night.
TJ couldn’t convince Goodman that we’ve got the best home court in college but Goodman agreed it was too 5. TJ stopped him there and said “it’s our night” because he didn’t even want the other schools named.
There was a play in the first half where Tamin was pushed and shoved a couple of times by multiple defenders, knocking him off balance and yet NO call!
It’s in the Field of 68 after dark. Will copy and paste from game thread when I can.
Goodman was on the radio today and said top 5 easily. Only other schools he mentioned where Duke and Ku and a throw in Indiana.
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I think you’re overthinking it. Any pup for Iowa State is good however we can get it
Hilton Magic is just termed differently now that ISU is a perennial top 10 team. It's no longer upsetting a top team at Hilton with a mediocre ISU team, It's now a term to describe how difficult winning at Hilton is for any visitor.
"Hilton Magic" is a great term for national media members to describe the environment of Hilton, which is very unique.
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Everyone should watch that field of 68 video.
Hilton was incredible last night and at the same time, it's worth mentioning that it just takes 1 person (in a row, section, or even the all of Hilton) to help make the environment even more magical. We had the "tarps off" guy Saturday, a different guy doing his part last night and while you don't have to go full "tarps off", you can get others in your section to get a little louder/rowdier right from the start.
There was also plenty of complaining about standing last night too (to the point of ushers and police coming over) so we have an opportunity to make standing and cheering more of the Magic than sitting and hoping that Hilton can just do it by itself...
There was also plenty of complaining about standing last night too (to the point of ushers and police coming over) so we have an opportunity to make standing and cheering more of the Magic than sitting and hoping that Hilton can just do it by itself...
Couldn't agree more. "The 12th man" is incredibly lame.
Hilton Magic sounds so much f*ckin' cooler.
The worst is the physicality allowed on rebounds. That's not just Houston either, its the whole conference. Constant shoves in the back, hacking arms even when a player has the ball. It's just a scrum 50% of the time. Anything goes. On that possession where Cenac grabbed 3 straight offensive rebounds, for the second one, he put his elbow right into Toure's back and basically pushed him to the floor. Then a few posession later Lipsey went to block out Flagler, then Flager jumped on his back, fell down and they called a foul on Tamin. WTF are we doing?
