And I don't disagree. Just saying this season has dealt its share of surprises. All we know is what's happened and where things stand right now.
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That’s one of my favorite excuses to hear from them every time we beat them.
My other favorite: ‘Ya know, if we played this game later in the season, we’d beat you guys’.
Ummm. The entire Iowa women’s basketball program declared for the draft last year. Good luck to them for that. Maybe they can get behind women’s field hockey again?
Iowa’s SOS relative to a lot of P4 is going to be weak the rest of the way. Lots of bottom half league games coming up, and you had one of the better Non-con opponents.
Iowa will have a solid SoS, but it seems like a certainty that it has peaked.
Yes, but imagine if we lost to the worst team in our conference- we would drop 12 spots in the rankings. Perfect example, Mizzou lost to a solid (and ranked) A & M team, at Kyle Field and they fell 12 spots. Bama loses to a garbage team- they only fall 6 spots.
The Blue Blood bias is real and it is ruining college football. There is a desire among the media to keep Bama, Georgia, Michigan et. al. at the top until an argument can no longer be made (as in Michigan’s case this year).
The only way to fix it is for teams outside, such as the B12 and ACC, to schedule the blue bloods in the non-con and consistently beat them. We have to play them and beat them- otherwise, they control the narrative. Just like the TOE, how do you shut them up every year? Beat them and then beat them again next year.
Missouri dropped that far because they have no good wins to go along with that awful loss. Bama still has arguably the best win of the season for any team.
Playoffs will be big too if B12 or ACC can beat some Big Ten and SEC opponents it'll help perception of those leagues a lot.
While I agree with you, a Big 12 team beat a B10 team the last time the two conferences faced off in the CFP.
Didn’t seem to help perception. It’s a large hurdle to climb
Current Big 12 teams are 1-2 in the playoff.
The teams that just left the Big 12 are 0-5.
That said, I think it's an example that a playoff record can be misleading. TCU and Cincy combined are not actually far better than Texas/OU the way their playoff records suggest they are.
TCU also had the year they were #1 or at worst #2 in the country and the Big Ten committee kicked them out of the playoff for no reason at all. They'd have very likely won another playoff game or two that season when they were ridiculously dominant only losing one game on the road to a top ten team because of horrible calls.
KidSilverhair
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“No reason at all”? Why, that missing 13th data point was right there! You know, the one that only mattered that one time, and never came up again, even when Ohio State only played 6 games in 2020.
This whole debate is a silly argument. Yes, Iowa benefitted from a weak B1G West for years. Just as ISU played in a weak Big 12 North. At least Iowa made hay with their schedule, while we never got over the hump.
In my opinion, Iowa does it "right". Nine conference games and a tenth P4 game that is on the road every other year. Just like ISU. Can't help how the now unbalanced schedules work out with team strengths.
It is the SEC that pisses me off with 8 conference games.
Per the committee, ISU should win @WVU and then not play another game because 6-0 is the ultimate number of data points.
Disagree. That wasn’t a bad loss- not even close compared to Bama crapping the proverbial bed Saturday. Losing to a ranked team on the road is nothing that should drop you 12 spots.
Besides, if they didn’t have any good wins, then why were they up there that far to begin with? The bias is either on the front end or the back end…just depends on who we’re talking about.
Ummm it’s a horrible loss, they got obliterated by 30 and didn’t belong on the same field. They were that high the same way everyone is, the previous year results combined with returning talent and recruiting/transfers.
KidSilverhair
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I heard them bragging over the weekend that since the SEC requires members to play a P4 team in the non-con, their 8 conference games are “just the same” as other conferences playing 9.
How else will you get classic November matchups like Alabama-Mercer, Oklahoma-Maine, South Carolina-Wofford, both Mississippi State AND Georgia hosting UMass, or Texas A&M-New Mexico State? Iron sharpens iron, gotta get those key high-stakes non-conference battles in right before playoff time.
I heard them bragging over the weekend that since the SEC requires members to play a P4 team in the non-con, their 8 conference games are “just the same” as other conferences playing 9.
How else will you get classic November matchups like Alabama-Mercer, Oklahoma-Maine, South Carolina-Wofford, both Mississippi State AND Georgia hosting UMass, or Texas A&M-New Mexico State? Iron sharpens iron, gotta get those key high-stakes non-conference battles in right before playoff time.
Ummm. Let’s say this is true. Doesn’t that mean that the P4 team they are playing then plays 9 + the 1 non-con? I know math or deductive reasoning aren’t strong suits in the SEC land, but this has to be the weakest argument I’ve ever heard. How many P4 teams didn’t play any other P4 teams in the non conference? That number has to be small these days. Even Baylor snuck one in with the technicality of the Utah game being nonconference.
KidSilverhair
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Why yes. Yes it does.
Doesn’t matter, though, cause the SEC “means more,” so 8 SEC games is like 10 of any other conference.
KidSilverhair
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Indiana’s non-con this year: FIU, Western Illinois, Charlotte
Ohio State’s non-con this year: Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall
Syracuse’s non-con this year: Ohio, Holy Cross, UNLV, UConn
That looks to be it for P4 schools without a P4 non-con game. I counted games against Washington State or Oregon State as P4, even that’s sorta incorrect, but they should get the benefit of the doubt this year.
Then there’s West Virginia, who played both Pitt and Penn State and has only one non-P4 team on their schedule (UAlbany).
It’s ruining college football? That’s been college football for generations. It has always been this way
It’s not anywhere close to equitable, and certainly not fair, but college football has never been more inclusive and unbiased.
Hopefully we get expansion to 14 team CFP with Big 12 and ACC getting two autos. That would be far better access than ever before
Genuine question. Why don’t other conferences do this then? For real, every fan from other conferences complain about it but why don’t we do it?I heard them bragging over the weekend that since the SEC requires members to play a P4 team in the non-con, their 8 conference games are “just the same” as other conferences playing 9.
How else will you get classic November matchups like Alabama-Mercer, Oklahoma-Maine, South Carolina-Wofford, both Mississippi State AND Georgia hosting UMass, or Texas A&M-New Mexico State? Iron sharpens iron, gotta get those key high-stakes non-conference battles in right before playoff time.
It’s actually brilliant schedule making. Imagine getting to play a conference game in week 3/4 while relatively healthy and then when you are beat up in November you get to play Ark St or whoever.
