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NFL: ***2022 NFL Season Thread***

Nice play calling by Denver in OT, run two straight plays up the middle for no gain with 50 year old Latavious Murray, incomplete, punt. The old Ferentz family offense.
 
I always believe Russ fit in perfectly in Seattle and would have struggled in almost any other system. I think that is proving out - that and he seems to just lost all touch on the ball. Between him, Brady, and Rodgers all struggling this year, it's definitely a young QB league.
 
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Rural said:
They should do it, they won't but it'd be the best move.
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I don't think they can and still field a team. It would be over 100 million in dead money and the Broncos have 23 million in projected cap space.

They're stuck until at least 2025 when the dead money gets down to a more manageable but still brutal 49 million
 
Clark said:
I don't think they can and still field a team. It would be over 100 million in dead money and the Broncos have 23 million in projected cap space.

They're stuck until at least 2025 when the dead money gets down to a more manageable but still brutal 49 million
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So, get a starter in the draft and have a $250 million back-up?

He's washed up.
 
jereseib said:
Nice play calling by Denver in OT, run two straight plays up the middle for no gain with 50 year old Latavious Murray, incomplete, punt. The old Ferentz family offense.
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It was more then just OT. The last 3 drives were basically all the same. They did the same thing time after time. As bad as Russ had been he is far from the only problem for the Broncos. The o line sucks, the coach has sucked so far, and the receivers struggle to get consistent separation. The o line is missing things that are taught in high school.
 
Clark said:
I don't think they can and still field a team. It would be over 100 million in dead money and the Broncos have 23 million in projected cap space.

They're stuck until at least 2025 when the dead money gets down to a more manageable but still brutal 49 million
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Agreed. Very unlikely they'd cut him before then. The shocking thing is how dramatic the dropoff has been. Russ had some terrible olines in Seattle as well as some crappy running games in recent years, and still was able to produce. It's hard for me to believe that suddenly this year his supporting cast is that much worse.

But he's definitely got Denver over a barrel on that contract. There's no getting out of it for a while. It's hard to call Denver stupid for trading for him and wanting to lock him into a long term deal. Russ falling off a cliff, performance-wise was not something many people saw coming.
 
Mr Janny said:
Agreed. Very unlikely they'd cut him before then. The shocking thing is how dramatic the dropoff has been. Russ had some terrible olines in Seattle as well as some crappy running games in recent years, and still was able to produce. It's hard for me to believe that suddenly this year his supporting cast is that much worse.

But he's definitely got Denver over a barrel on that contract. There's no getting out of it for a while. It's hard to call Denver stupid for trading for him and wanting to lock him into a long term deal. Russ falling off a cliff, performance-wise was not something many people saw coming.
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A national writer (long forgotten who) said Russ is very much a product of Seattle and Pete Carroll.

The implication being the situation was very much his best career outcome.
 
Mr Janny said:
Agreed. Very unlikely they'd cut him before then. The shocking thing is how dramatic the dropoff has been. Russ had some terrible olines in Seattle as well as some crappy running games in recent years, and still was able to produce. It's hard for me to believe that suddenly this year his supporting cast is that much worse.

But he's definitely got Denver over a barrel on that contract. There's no getting out of it for a while. It's hard to call Denver stupid for trading for him and wanting to lock him into a long term deal. Russ falling off a cliff, performance-wise was not something many people saw coming.
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He needs a specific type of receiver group to be successful. He actually doesn't need a great o-line, he proved that with Seattle though it wouldn't hurt.

He has no Tyler Lockett right now and it's killing him. He needs guys that can make plays down the field and instead he has a bunch of underneath options.

That probably means he was overpaid but it doesn't mean this isn't salvageable, Denver just needs to find playmakers who better fit what he does well.
 
Clark said:
He needs a specific type of receiver group to be successful. He actually doesn't need a great o-line, he proved that with Seattle though it wouldn't hurt.

He has no Tyler Lockett right now and it's killing him. He needs guys that can make plays down the field and instead he has a bunch of underneath options.

That probably means he was overpaid but it doesn't mean this isn't salvageable, Denver just needs to find playmakers who better fit what he does well.
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Agreed that he needs better receivers, but I think Denver needs to ditch their coach who is in over his head and find a veteran coach, that is similar to Carroll, but more up to date offensively. Wilson can't win games by himself. He needs a decent run game and at least average defense. Find a strong coach who will call a distributed run/pass game and I think they could be successful.
 
somecyguy said:
Agreed that he needs better receivers, but I think Denver needs to ditch their coach who is in over his head and find a veteran coach, that is similar to Carroll, but more up to date offensively. Wilson can't wins games by himself. He needs a decent run game and at least average defense. Find a strong coach who will call a distributed run/pass game and I think they could be successful.
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I think he has most of that but somewhere between the HC OC and Russ, it aint working.
 
somecyguy said:
Agreed that he needs better receivers, but I think Denver needs to ditch their coach who is in over his head and find a veteran coach, that is similar to Carroll, but more up to date offensively. Wilson can't win games by himself. He needs a decent run game and at least average defense. Find a strong coach who will call a distributed run/pass game and I think they could be successful.
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I think the defense has actually been pretty good for Denver. Wilson needs an OC that builds the offense around his strengths and lets him move around.
 
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ScottyP said:
I think the defense has actually been pretty good for Denver. Wilson needs an OC that builds the offense around his strengths and lets him move around.
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Yes, I'd agree he already has the defense and running game when everyone is healthy.

Even his receivers aren't bad, they just don't fit him well. Jeudy for instance isn't catching many balls 30 yards down the field, that's not really his game.
 
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