NFL: ***2020 NFL Draft Thread***

[demoncore1031]

Hundreds of hours? Jesus. You should post the whole thing

I tried to but the site keeps messing up. I did pretty well with my first round picks. Very happy to see Jefferson go to the Vikings. He was #1 on my wish list. I'm not sure about Jeff Gladney though. Time will tell, but I do remember Lazard schooling him pretty bad a few years ago.

 

[Cyforce]

Vikes did well.

Packers.... lolz

What's the difference between the Vikings and the Bears???

1985

 

[nfrine]

What's the difference between the Vikings and the Bears???

1985

And Montgomery...

 

[jbindm]

Something I read regarding the GB pick: One of the big benefits of taking a 1st round QB is getting them cheap for their rookie contract. It allows you to build around them while they don't take up much of your salary cap. The Pack get exactly zero of that benefit, because of Aaron's contract.

Odd move for sure. I guess the upside is that if Love does work out then they're set for another decade and then some at QB. But I can't imagine he or Rodgers is thrilled about the arrangement for the next two years, plus he's far from a sure thing. I watched several of his games this last season, and for every "holy ****!" throw there were two or three "what was he seeing?" throws.

 

[cycloner29]

Wow. Packers

Hawks fans were holding out hope it would have been Stanley. You know Wisconsin boy and all.

 

[jbindm]

I'm not crazy about what the Chargers did last night. I think Herbert's going to be a bust, and I like Murray but they would have been better off taking Isaiah Simmons at 6 and keeping the picks they ended up trading to NE to move back into the first round. Pairing Simmons and Derwin James would have given them one of the most versatile defenses in the league. Sign Cam Newton after the draft (assuming he's healthy), and on paper it's a team that can at least push KC and make Mahomes work for it.

 

[Urbandale2013]

Not a NFL guy but I feel like GB has a lot more credibility than any other NFC north team.

I think it’s actually a great pick. My understanding is this is an incredibly deep WR class. So they got what they view as a potential future QB and still have opportunities to get WRs later.

 

[jbindm]

Not a NFL guy but I feel like GB has a lot more credibility than any other NFC north team.

I think it’s actually a great pick. My understanding is this is an incredibly deep WR class. So they got what they view as a potential future QB and still have opportunities to get WRs later.

I don't fault them for getting their QB for the future. It's the GM's job to think big picture and how the roster will look like not just now, but in several years. But the fact that they're basically tied to Rodgers through at least the next two seasons thanks to his contract and the fact that Love is a pretty huge roll of the dice makes it a curious move. And while the biggest threat to them in the North went out and got two plug and play starters last night they sacrificed draft capital for a guy who, best case scenario, won't help them for another three years.

I don't know. Time will tell, but IMO Gutekunst really went pretty far out on a limb with this decision.

 

[riceville98]

What did they get for trading back?

Picks #'s 31, 117 and 176 I believe My numbers may be off slightly

 

[Urbandale2013]

I don't fault them for getting their QB for the future. It's the GM's job to think big picture and how the roster will look like not just now, but in several years. But the fact that they're basically tied to Rodgers through at least the next two seasons thanks to his contract and the fact that Love is a pretty huge roll of the dice makes it a curious move. And while the biggest threat to them in the North went out and got two plug and play starters last night they sacrificed draft capital for a guy who, best case scenario, won't help them for another three years.

I don't know. Time will tell, but IMO Gutekunst really went pretty far out on a limb with this decision.

I guess I look at it as the packers have done a good job of being consistently good in my lifetime. They aren’t always the best and they’ve had down years but they’ve only had 2 consecutive losing seasons in my lifetime. I guess I am of the opinion that sometimes you have to play the long game and you aren’t going to win the Super Bowl every year. Compare them to the Browns and Bengals who supposedly draft the next great quarterback every other year and I’d feel fine as a Packers fan.

 

[cycloner29]

Dolphins have the 7th pick in the second round. Waiting to see if they go O-line, D-line or running back. I see where Kiper had them as one of the winners of the night. I was surprised by their last pick going for d-back.

My head scratcher pick was either the Packers or Cowboys. I know Lamb was but thought defense was a bigger need. Now the offense has score on about every series as their defense needs help.

Packers well smart move by them gives the 'phins an additional pick yet. Rodgers is probably looking for an out in his contract now...

 

[Brentwood]

I didn't watch along last night, but I checked in to see what Dallas would do. I cannot believe that CeeDee fell to them. There was a lot of talk that he is going to end up being the best WR from this draft. Love this analysis :

Boy, they sure do. Amari Cooper. Michael Gallup. Two 1,000-yard receivers last year. Now the versatile Lamb, can play inside, can play outside. Great catch radius. Can hand him the ball. Anyone want to kick him the ball? Three-receiver sets will be my base offense. Go ahead and play nickel against me. Dare you. Now I'm coming right at you with Zeke, too, with one less linebacker on the field. If Lamb is as good as we think he is, my goodness, this might be the best three-man receiving corps the Cowboys have had since . . . well, ever. The stars sure shined on the Cowboys Thursday night.

This is Dak's opportunity to make his money. LFG!

 

[Mr Janny]

I don't fault them for getting their QB for the future. It's the GM's job to think big picture and how the roster will look like not just now, but in several years. But the fact that they're basically tied to Rodgers through at least the next two seasons thanks to his contract and the fact that Love is a pretty huge roll of the dice makes it a curious move. And while the biggest threat to them in the North went out and got two plug and play starters last night they sacrificed draft capital for a guy who, best case scenario, won't help them for another three years.

I don't know. Time will tell, but IMO Gutekunst really went pretty far out on a limb with this decision.

This. It's not that they want to find their future QB, it's the way they went about it, given their current situation, wastes a lot of the benefit you get from taking a QB in the first round. Love will get a cheap, 4 year deal with a team option of a 5th. It's super beneficial from a team perspective, because having your starting QB making say $5 million a year is peanuts, so you can spend that savings on other players. Green Bay isn't going to be able to do that as easily, because Rodgers is already taking up a large portion of the cap and will next year as well. And he carries an absolute monster dead cap number for the next two years, so they can't really unload him either. Barring injury, the earliest this pick pays dividends is 2022, when the Rodgers would count a whopping 39million against the cap, with "only" a 17 million dollar dead cap number. That's the exit point for Green Bay, but it still will cost them.

Couple in the Covid factor and the unknowns it brings, and you could be looking at a stagnant salary cap as well. That would make things even worse for Green Bay.

That's just on the financial side of things. I'm not going to comment on Love's talent, as that's pretty subjective.

 

[jbindm]

I guess I look at it as the packers have done a good job of being consistently good in my lifetime. They aren’t always the best and they’ve had down years but they’ve only had 2 consecutive losing seasons in my lifetime. I guess I am of the opinion that sometimes you have to play the long game and you aren’t going to win the Super Bowl every year. Compare them to the Browns and Bengals who supposedly draft the next great quarterback every other year and I’d feel fine as a Packers fan.

Understandable. They have been a pretty stable franchise. Again, It's the details that bother me - their window to contend with Rodgers is still very much open, his current contract makes it virtually impossible for them to move on from him for two years, he's still playing at a pretty high level, and Love is far from a sure thing. The physical traits are awesome and he throws a beautiful ball, but 20 TDs to 17 INTs in the MWC?

They didn't punt on their chance to contend this season - they'll still be good, assuming there's a season at all - but they passed on a lot of blue chip players who could have helped them immediately.

 

[jbindm]

This. It's not that they want to find their future QB, it's the way they went about it, given their current situation, wastes a lot of the benefit you get from taking a QB in the first round. Love will get a cheap, 4 year deal with a team option of a 5th. It's super beneficial from a team perspective, because having your starting QB making say $5 million a year is peanuts, so you can spend that savings on other players. Green Bay isn't going to be able to do that as easily, because Rodgers is already taking up a large portion of the cap and will next year as well. And he carries an absolute monster dead cap number for the next two years, so they can't really unload him either. Barring injury, the earliest this pick pays dividends is 2022, when the Rodgers would count a whopping 39million against the cap, with "only" a 17 million dollar dead cap number. That's the exit point for Green Bay, but it still will cost them.

Couple in the Covid factor and the unknowns it brings, and you could be looking at a stagnant salary cap as well. That would make things even worse for Green Bay.

That's just on the financial side of things. I'm not going to comment on Love's talent, as that's pretty subjective.

I guess you could always use Love as trade bait down the road if Rodgers shows no signs of slowing down, but even then you kind of shot yourself in the foot regarding your chances to contend right now. The Packers were a good team last season and there were some guys still on the board who could help them right now.

Maybe it all works out, but I don't know. It looks like a huge gamble by Gutekunst.

 

[Gonzo]

Hawks fans were holding out hope it would have been Stanley. You know Wisconsin boy and all.

**** the Packers.

 

[cyclonepower]

excited to see what the Broncos do with 4 picks tonight

 

[Colorado]

**** the Packers

I'm a fan of what the Cowboys did. CeeDee Lamb was a steal at that position

 

[cycloner29]

**** the Packers.

Packers probably thought the same thing about Stanley.

 

[Gonzo]

Packers probably thought the same thing about Stanley.