2007-2008 Record Change

I think the point KG Cyclone is trying to make is that something happened at the Vegas Tournament that caused Wes to become "discontent" with the program and/or coaching staff.

I was in Las Vegas for those games and the only thing I can point to is a blowup between WJ and McDermott in a TV timeout in which McDermott laid his hands on Wes jerking him around. In McDermott defense Wes had said something to McDermott coming off the court and McDermott apologized after the TV timeout was over.
It just strikes me as odd that this incident could have been the reason WJ transferred. Especially when you consider that the night before ISU has played its best game of the season in beating Purdue.

More so somebody else was in his ear after the game.
 
I can't find anyone on Kentucky's staff w/ ties to Alabama so maybe it was a scouting thing....probably Ashlee Judd!!
 
wes Johnson met Ashley judd in vegas cause she was helping to scout Alabama. They started going out and she convince him to transfer
 
The only connection between Alabama and Gillespie at Kentucky is James Holland who is currently an assistant coach at Alabama (just finished his second year) and also coached under Gillespie at UTEP. Quite frankly if Wes decides to attend Alabama I would feel really sorry for him. They are consistently one of the most underachieving and non-coached teams in America. As Bill King on Rivals Radio says "All Gotfried consistently does is roll the balls onto the court." No coaching whatsoever. I really hope someone from Alabama didn't get into his ear.
 
I'm just giving everybody what I have thus far...If you would prefer I wait to say something...I can do that. I've been steaming about this since last night, so it's kind of nice having some company with my frustration.

And what's the difference between what he just did and what I did? He's telling you part of the story, and saying guess the rest of it because I can't really disclose it yet. That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!
 
And what's the difference between what he just did and what I did? He's telling you part of the story, and saying guess the rest of it because I can't really disclose it yet. That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!

Go back and read what I said.

Nah....I'll quote it for you...

I believe the man 100% when he says he knows, but is unable to reveal right now. IMO, probably one of the best sources we have here as it relates to the MBB program.

I just wish like some others, he'd keep a lid on it until he's able to go into detail.
 
And what's the difference between what he just did and what I did? He's telling you part of the story, and saying guess the rest of it because I can't really disclose it yet. That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!

The difference is that his scenario could be possibly damaging to another program or an ex-player, while yours is damaging to OUR program and staff IMO
 
Cyfan13 & KG-Cyclone -- Thank you Both! I appreciate your insight very much. It’s because of the insiders like you that I visit the website. Please keep posting in the future.
 
to KG and Cyfan13 I say... **** or get off the pot. i'm tired of this "bait and then you guys figure it out" crap. it's like your wife assuming you have this magical power to read thier mind because everybody knows men should be able to anticipate your girl's thoughts. So, i'll do what I usually do, leave the room and come back when someone has something real to say.
 
Cyfan13 & KG-Cyclone -- Thank you Both! I appreciate your insight very much. It’s because of the insiders like you that I visit the website. Please keep posting in the future.


Stay where you are. Im coming over to slap you, in about 5 minutes.
 
In Vegas...certainly it is not related to a betting related or point shaving scheeme??

That was my first thought, but I don't think that is it. I actually am enjoying the guessing. Since LOST is out for almost 2 weeks, I need some cliffhangers :wink:.

Also, let's be kind to one another. This is an emotional time for our team and fans I'm sure, and let's not just speak out of emotion.
 
And what's the difference between what he just did and what I did? He's telling you part of the story, and saying guess the rest of it because I can't really disclose it yet. That's exactly what I did. Bunch of hypocrits on this site!

Hypocrits? During the season you ripped Wes on several occasions for playing bad. You seemed very angry that us Cyclone fans thought he was our best player. Now that he is leaving, he is a great guy, great teammate, great player, and is doing what is best for him according to you. How can you publicly call him out on a message board and then publicly back him a couple months later? Who is the hypocrit?

Also you take shots at our program and coaches which is what people don't like. 90% of your posts are negative related.
 
My head is spinning from reading too many posts but it seems like Cyfan13 mentioned earlier that Wes had been unhappy since the Las Vegas tournament. That would be one more little tidbit of coincidental confirmation in this unfolding timeline.
 
Ok, moving with the hints, the second loss to Alabama is in OT, so whatever happened, happened after the game I'm guessing. The problem with the Las Vegas hint is that any sleaze could have been in LV representing any school - agents, boosters, etc. who knows?

I guess the good news with this possible hint is that him leaving has nothing (or little) to do with any misdiagnosis. If there is foul play, I hope the NCAA comes down like a ton of bricks on Kentucky or whomever is poaching.
 
Hypocrits? During the season you ripped Wes on several occasions for playing bad. You seemed very angry that us Cyclone fans thought he was our best player. Now that he is leaving, he is a great guy, great teammate, great player, and is doing what is best for him according to you. How can you publicly call him out on a message board and then publicly back him a couple months later? Who is the hypocrit?

Also you take shots at our program and coaches which is what people don't like. 90% of your posts are negative related.

Anyone could try to disagree with this - but they'd lose - as it's 100% accurate.

I'd have more credibility for this source if she wasn't flip-flopping more often than your normal politician.
 

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