2004: Altman to ISU?

I'm with those who think Altman could do a pretty good job at a BCS school if he ever wanted to go there. The Kansas State job was what, ten, fifteen years ago? You don't think the guy has improved as a coach since then? Besides, basketball at K-State was definitely a second fiddle to football down there up until the day they hired Bob Huggins.

Past performance is often an indicator of future success, and going by the numbers, Altman could be a h@ll of a catch.
 
I think that if Altman is named coach at Iowa, he will do allright there. He is a good coach.

The second thing that we will hear, after we really got our first choice, is about how he owned McDermott when they were in the Valley, which is true.
 
Just for the record, Wayne was hired in 2003, so I'm not sure what the opening could have been.
 
I believe we were actually turned down by the Wyoming coach, Steve McClain, in 2003, when we settled on Wayne Morgan. McClain was courted and, in a declarative statement, said publicly that he didn't want the ISU job.

He was fired at the end of this season (2006-07) at Wyoming. If you want to be happy about a coach we didn't get, this is the one.

http://www.examiner.com/a-635937~Schroyer_Names_Wyoming_Basketball_Coach.html

(Edited / add here): Here's the definitive quote from the article --

Schroyer replaces Steve McClain, who was fired earlier this month after going 157-115 in nine seasons. McClain led Wyoming to four postseason bids in his first five seasons, and in 2002 coached the Cowboys to their first NCAA tournament win since 1990.
But McClain's last four seasons were mediocre - Wyoming went a combined 57-63 in those seasons, with two losing records and no postseason bids. Burman cited on-the-court losses and slumping ticket sales when he fired McClain.
 
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Altman did issue a statement that he was NOT interested in the ISU job a few years ago. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Bruce because the search for a coach was horrible. I don't think Altman was a possibility.
 
salaries are a little old but you get the idea

Private-school basketball coaches who were the highest-paid figures at their school in the 2003 fiscal year, exceeding the salary of the university president (using full names from IRS forms)
School Coach 2003
Salary President 2003
Salary Difference Pct. diff.
between coach
and pres.
Marquette Thomas A. Crean $807,128 Gregory J. Kliebhan (VP) * $250,497 $556,631 222.2
Gonzaga Mark N. Few $528,321 Rev. Robert J. Spitzer $178,500 $349,821 196.0
Providence Timothy J. Welsh $544,755 Michael V. Frazier (CEO) * $200,132 $344,623 172.2
St. John's Michael D. Jarvis $733,700 James P. Pellow (VP) * $396,971 $336,729 84.8
Villanova Jerold Wright $535,816 Rev. Edmund J. Dobbin $290,023 $245,793 84.7
Xavier Thad M. Matta $399,824 Rev. Michael J. Graham $246,214 $153,610 62.4
Duke Mike Krzyzewski $853,009 Nannerl O. Keohane $528,622 $324,287 61.4
Wake Forest George E. Prosser $848,828 Thomas K. Hearn Jr. $542,135 $306,693 56.6
Seton Hall Louis Orr $467,899 Patrick E. Hobbs (law) ^ $306,052 $161,847 52.9
Syracuse James A. Boeheim Jr. $669,089 Kenneth A. Shaw $488,204 $180,885 37.1
Baylor Dave Bliss $656,582 Robert B. Sloan Jr. $483,989 $172,593 35.7
Boston Col. Albert L. Skinner $540,668 Alan Wolfe (prof.)* $400,909 $139,759 34.7
St. Joe's Philip Martelli $363,164 Rev. Nicholas S. Rashford * $275,500 $87,664 31.8
Creighton Dana D. Altman $672,067 M. Roy Wilson (VP/dean) * $561,322 $110,745 13.9
Vanderbilt Kevin E. Stallings $981,046 Gordon Gee $887,209 $93,837 10.6
 
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/content.view/cpid/568.htm

Here are some interesting facts:

The coach with the best record, Duke University 's Mike Krzyzewski, is not the highest paid. Both Marquette coach Tom Crean and Vanderbilt coach Kevin Stallings earn more from their respective universities.
The greatest gap between performance and pay seems to be at Northwestern University , where Bill Carmody's annual compensation of $1.1 million lands him at number four on the list despite amassing only 95 wins and 111 losses in seven seasons as head coach.
While John Thompson, III earns $449,054 as head coach at Georgetown, his father, former head coach John Thompson, Jr., earns $412,121 as "Special Assistant to the President" at Georgetown.
In what can be seen as a victory for Title IX, while Baylor University men's basketball coach Scott Drew is number ten on the list with a salary of $413,612, Baylor women's basketball head coach Kim Mulkey earns quite a bit more, with an annual salary of $654,290 in the most recent fiscal year.

School Coach Salary W-L Pct
Marquette University Tom Crean $1,655,819 163-84 .660
Vanderbilt University Kevin Stallings $1,339,643 142-105 .575
Duke University Mike Krzyzewski $1,200,000 702-199 .779
Northwestern University Bill Carmody $1,132,965 95-111 .461
Creighton University Dana Altman $937,714 257-140 .647
Boston College Al Skinner $592,093 194-117 .624
University of Dayton Brian Gregory $484,342 73-48 .603
University of Notre Dame Mike Brey $467,203 140-76 .648
Georgetown University John Thompson, III $449,054 132-71 .650
Baylor University Scott Drew $413,612 34-67 .337
Texas Christian University Neil Dougherty $379,487 65-80 .448
Syracuse University Jim Boeheim $377,387 724-249 .744
George Washington University Karl Hobbs $351,455 110-64 .632
DePaul University Jerry Wainwright $300,000 29-27 .518
Fordham University Dereck Whittenburg $264,043 35-54 .393
American University Jeff Jones $248,360 103-100 .507
University of the Pacific Bob Thomason $225,699 321-238 .574
University of Detroit Mercy Perry Watson $217,444 254-175 .592
University of San Francisco Jessie Evans $200,945 41-48 .461
Valparaiso University Homer Drew $169,462 302-239 .558
 
After all that has happened with Marty & Miller over the last few months, why would anybody take what they say with a grain on salt? The few times I've listened to them they have had a ax to grind with ISU and Jamie Pollard.
 
I think Altman could do a good job at Iowa. Their fanbase would be disappointed or even outright mad for a year or two, but results have a funny way of changing attitudes.

Right, Altman at Iowa is bad for ISU. He freekin' owned GMac when Northern Iowa and Creighton went head to head. :no6xn:
 
No coach is ever, EVER interested in a job they didn't get.

Show me a coach who publicly stated "man, I really wanted that job, but didn't get it."
 
I would place Miller's statement in the bull**** category.
If Altman was willing to leave Creighton for ISU, why has he not agressively pursued or taken any other opening since then. There have been numerous high profile coaching jobs open up in the past 4 years, some with better programs or more money than ISU.
 
Per a "Confidential Trusted Source" (My accountant's wife gets her hair cut by the mother of one of Dana Altman's assistant coaches.) Dana Altman will be next coach at EIU.
 
I don't understand why Altman would be interested in the EIU job. From what I can tell, that would be a huge step down for Altman.... sort of like moving from EIU to New Mexico.

Creighton has been a contender year in and year out in a conference that is gaining more and more respect each season. They are playing in a brand new state of the art arena which they are doing a good job of filling. Omaha, while not the most glamorous of cities, has more going on than Iowa City. Basketball is the thing at Creighton, they don't play football. Creighton basketball is also the big thing down the road at University of Nebraska during the winter months, the Huskers don't really play basketball.

Why trade that for the disaster that is the EIU position?: A school that cares more about football, has an overinflated view of itself in the grand scheme of college basketball, and will drive out coaches that don't meet the unrealistic standards held by the fans.
 
Ken McKenna sure jumped fast at the Indiana State head coach job today. He was the assistant to Dana Altman. A move is affoot?

It is interEsting that Kirk Ferentz can make $3M a year with 6 wins and the highest paid bball coach who can win 30 makes $1.7M. Guess bball is only half as important monetarily as football.


Dana lost 3 seniors this year - the BigThree. Lots of questionmarks for next year. Can have those qmarks just as well at EIU.