Texas Tech 10 Million Dollar Portal Season

[jbhtexas]

I don’t think it matters. No appeal is going to be heard before the football season is over.

Tech doesn’t care about winning. They just needed to delay a resolution until after the season so Sorsby can play. Then they can drop the dispute.

Nothing much in college football surprises me anymore … but I’m speechless on this one. This is crazy

If Sorsby were ruled ineligible next February...would he have to return his NIL payments and the value of any compensation and services he received from TT? I would assume these things can only be paid/provided to legitimate, eligible athletes???

 

[cycopath25]

 

[MeowingCows]

If the CFP chose to not include them despite them being qualified because of a player a court had said could play, the CFP would lose a similar lawsuit.

No one is getting blackballed for playing players that have been allowed to play by the courts. He isn't the first, he won't be the last.

Lawsuit over what? Serious question. The CFP is not an enforcement or regulatory body of any kind, it's merely a tournament organizer. It has no ties to the schools themselves or to NCAA at all. Why would they be open to a lawsuit from those entities, based on a tournament they operate on their own rules and participation? There's no force on the schools requiring them to enter it or follow their rules.

(not that they would ever deny Tech anyway in this scenario, but still)

 

[FinalFourCy]

So there won't be lawsuit if they go 13-0 and aren't allowed to play in the playoff? I'll believe people in power care about anything other than the almighty eyeball when I see it, and Tech as a top-3 seed would be great for viewership

ratings are threatened if viewers think players are green lighted to bet on their own games

No one wants that, particularly the networks. They aren’t going to choose to be a penny rich, dollar poor

Let’s put it this way, the odds something fluky occurring that keeps them out goes up with Sorsby playing

 

[bluestarcyclone]

Lawsuit over what? Serious question. The CFP is not an enforcement or regulatory body of any kind, it's merely a tournament organizer. It has no ties to the schools themselves or to NCAA at all. Why would they be open to a lawsuit from those entities, based on a tournament they operate on their own rules and participation? There's no force on the schools requiring them to enter it or follow their rules.

(not that they would ever deny Tech anyway in this scenario, but still)

All the participating schools involved have contracts connecting them to the CFP. They would sue for an emergency order against the CFP which would likely move faster than normal just like this temporary injunction did, due to the immediate harm that Texas tech would suffer in this case if they were kept out

 

[bluestarcyclone]

Are you new to this?

Being in the Big 12 is already getting them blackballed, or rather they’re in the Big 12 because they’re not deemed to be of acceptable ilk

Being in the Big 12 didn't get them blackballed last year. It probably didn't help their place in the rankings, but it didn't keep them out entirely. It's possible the same could happen with the committee, but if Texas tech is clearly in then they will be clearly in

 

[tzjung]

The corruption that is running rampant in politics is intertwined with that of college athletics. The money is coming from the same people that want the same power.

We are in an oligarchy that the court system can’t keep up with. The elites are ‘flooding the zone’ with such blatant power plays because the have learned that even if they lose in court, it could take years and the benefits for that policy being implemented while it is being legally debated is more than worth the investment!

 

[ZorkClone]

The real disappointment is nothing will change. Fans will keep watching, Tech will face no real consequences, and everyone will just gloss over this.

 

[Clonehomer]

The real disappointment is nothing will change. Fans will keep watching, Tech will face no real consequences, and everyone will just gloss over this.

I don’t know about everyone else, but I think I’ve found the cliff. Outside of ISU games, I’m not sure how much I’ll watch. And even ISU road games may be more of having the radio on in the garage. 5 years ago that would have sounded crazy to me.

 

[clonedude]

Yeah, I think the biggest thing is that doubt that it raises. Because if people start thinking that the games aren’t legit then that’s as bad as if they aren’t legit.

and do you really want to bet that the gambling addict wouldn’t bet against his team? This is the guy who beg the under on passing yards when he was the backup qb. I don’t think he will bet this season because there are so many people watching, but I wouldn’t take that bet

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1 million % the bolded part above.

That is why allowing, or in this case not punishing, gambling in a sport by anyone that can determine its outcome.... is the absolute WORST thing that can happen to a sport to end it.

As the poster above says.... even if the games are still legit... if you give the fans any reason to believe that they may no longer be legit... that's all it takes. I would never go to any athletic event if I wasn't sure that the outcome might already have been determined. That's why I don't get pro wrestling at all.... but I get it that some people are into glorified scripted soap operas I guess? Good for them... not my thing.

 

[MeowingCows]

All the participating schools involved have contracts connecting them to the CFP. They would sue for an emergency order against the CFP which would likely move faster than normal just like this temporary injunction did, due to the immediate harm that Texas tech would suffer in this case if they were kept out

I guess I'm missing why they're open to a lawsuit by leaving them out, when they are free to make the rules (and the playoff seeds) themselves, and that's already part of the contract agreed to by the schools. These contracts don't guarantee every school being selected as a top-12 team.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

The more I think about it the more elements of this pisses me off/flabbergasts me

• When this happened to ISU, our players got charged CRIMINALLY. Why is Soreby not being charged with anything. In addition to him betting, he had relatives/friends betting on his behalf. That doesn’t violate Indiana/Ohio state laws at all?

• How morally bankrupt is Texas Tech. I think we all thought the ISU/Iowa investigation was a dog and pony show. But no one at either school or fan base thought we should fight the charges. Texas Tech is a party fighting on this kid’s BEHALF. How decrepit can you be?

• Every single Sportsbook should be going after this kid in court. This result today puts their enterprise at risk. Their livelihood depends on the integrity of the sport.

I usually try to see both sides of an issue, but this takes the cake. I just can’t even

 

[bluestarcyclone]

I guess I'm missing why they're open to a lawsuit by leaving them out, when they are free to make the rules (and the playoff seeds) themselves, and that's already part of the contract agreed to by the schools. These contracts don't guarantee every school being selected as a top-12 team.

It should be pretty obvious. The contractual obligations wouldnt require them to be in if they didn't qualify of course, but a clear exclusion based on anything other than the competitive merits (or lack thereof) would be immediately challenged. And it would be a terrible precedent to set

 

[SolterraCyclone]

It should be pretty obvious. The contractual obligations wouldnt require them to be in if they didn't qualify of course, but a clear exclusion based on anything other than the competitive merits (or lack thereof) would be immediately challenged. And it would be a terrible precedent to set

We’re well beyond that now

 

[clonedude]

I don't get the law... but this was decided by someone in Lubbock? WTF?

I wish some law official in Ames had allowed all of our football player gamblers off the hook!

 

[Erik4Cy]

I don’t know about everyone else, but I think I’ve found the cliff. Outside of ISU games, I’m not sure how much I’ll watch.

I've been here as a fan for awhile. I watch every ISU game in FB & MBB. I try to catch as much of ISU WBB & wrestling as possible. Then my college sports viewing drops off a cliff.

 

[FinalFourCy]

It should be pretty obvious. The contractual obligations wouldnt require them to be in if they didn't qualify of course, but a clear exclusion based on anything other than the competitive merits (or lack thereof) would be immediately challenged. And it would be a terrible precedent to set

lol, zero chance they could prove it wasn’t football related

Zero

 

[MeowingCows]

It should be pretty obvious. The contractual obligations wouldnt require them to be in if they didn't qualify of course, but a clear exclusion based on anything other than the competitive merits (or lack thereof) would be immediately challenged. And it would be a terrible precedent to set

Aren't the competitive merits exactly what's in question here? The tournament organizer can determine that however they see for for their own tournament. They aren't an extension of the NCAA or the schools. Terrible precedent aside, it would be very interesting to force a judge to make hard declarations on what can qualify as competitive integrity versus not.

Frankly, we shouldn't be here at all given that it's a case of betting thousands of dollars on your own team, alas, here we are. So stupid.

 

[MeowingCows]

When this happened to ISU, our players got charged CRIMINALLY. Why is Soreby not being charged with anything. In addition to him betting, he had relatives/friends betting on his behalf. That doesn’t violate Indiana/Ohio state laws at all?

Honest answer: because the State of Iowa is a bunch of ******* morons, and all 49 other states are not. We tried make an example of ourselves, but accomplished nothing except showing our own asses for no gain.

The formula is as simple as can be at this point. Don't charge with a crime + school doesn't cooperate with the NCAA = nothing happens. That's it. There is no recourse for this.

 

[Kinch]