At 24 you are already in super league territory which again I just don’t really see happening unless it’s that 60 team super league which is just the P4 with different branding.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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TCU isn’t coming due to religion, ASU isn’t coming due to academics, Colorado is just Deion university, Utah is just weird, KU doesn’t bring enough but would be the best fit if forced but no one is forcing the moves because no additional realignment needs to happen.
Not saying it won’t it just doesn’t need to
I'm sure folks associated with the Big12, ACC and G5 conferences would push for pooling of TV revenues. I 100% agree that pooling would benefit the Big12. The Big10 & SEC are making around $70M annually per school. The ACC & Big12 are in the $35M ballbark.
But show me a source from the Big10 and SEC that feel pooling of TV rights has value for those conferences. Those schools can just continue to poach the highest media value teams from the Big12 & ACC over the next decade. It's simple math- why share with 30+ Big12/ACC schools when it can get most of the Big12/ACC TV money and add closer to 10 teams.
I'd like to know what your definition of doubling means? Are you saying CFB TV revenue for P4 schools will go from from $3B in 2030 to $6B in 2031 if TV rights were pooled? That just isn't happening even if Apple, Netflix, etc jump into televising CFB games.
What your CBS guy and USA Today guy mean when they reference doubling is the average over the contract length. So in the Big10's case- the current Big10 contract average/school of $71.4M will be achieved around 2027 (mid-point of contract). Even without pooling Big10 schools fully expect to at least double their average payout by the mid-point of the next deal (e.g 2033).
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Say it with me “the AD isn’t the school” Oregon state has set record enrollment every year for the past 8 years.
Fed intervention also isn’t coming as the schools that could potentially take a hit are not represented at the highest levels and have the fewest amount of funds.
His sources aren’t reporting they are just paid fluff pieces put out by Campbell not actual reporting
What you say is true in 2025. But what about 2030 or 2035? Also it might be justified to criticize ASU's academics, but they were awarded AAU status in 2023. So they are in the club that the Big10 seems to value (at least traditionally).
Also:
- How did adding Nebraska make sense? The Big 10 knew it was loosing it's AAU status. So it all came down to FB brand.
- How did adding Rutgers make sense? No football or MBB prestige. It allowed the Big10 to get higher BTN carriage fees in the NY metro.
- How did adding Maryland make sense? Some historical MBB tradition. But it allowed the Big10 to get higher BTN carriage fees in the DC metro.
- How did adding UCLA make sense? Any extended FB success is close to 50 years ago. But adding UCLA allowed Big10 a higher BTN carriage fee than if the Big10 added USC alone.
Why? You don’t pick a school for their AD (or if you do then you are a moron) some of the best schools in the country don’t have anything to do with athletics or if they do it’s the bare minimum
Their enrollment is going to be reduced due to the upcoming population cliff and the end of the state's exponential growth that's slowing. It has nothing to do with athletics and it's going to happen to everyone not in the Sun Belt (region not conference).
They've set records each of the last two years after 'relegation'.
Yeah, guys like Dennis Dodd and Matt Hayes are reporting only fluff from Campbell and multiple other sources. That’s a juvenile hot take.
It’s funny that a B10 fanboy like you and a strangely sensitive UNI poster are the two most traumatized by the Campbell initiatives.
If we’re going 10 years out no one has any idea what would happen and that’s impossible to predict, I feel pretty confident that none of those schools are moving to the big ten by 2030 though.
They just don’t bring any value to the table and again, further expansion doesn’t have to happen.
Yep billionaires get a lot of influence in dying papers like the USA Today which has never exactly been a bastion of journalism. So yeah they repeated exactly what he wanted them to say. Perks of wealth
It’s obvious you didn’t read or failed to comprehend the Dodd and Hayes articles.
Oh no I read the puff pieces that just regurgitated what cambell wanted to say.
There’s a reason Dodd is now retired. But again since you like him so much did you love his reporting that the remaining big12 teams after OUT were being absorbed by the American Conference? Or how about his reporting this year about the big12 going back to divisions? Or how about his reporting of the private equity group making a brand new league as a done deal and the future?
Yeah, certainly not a guy who would write a puff piece for a billionaire with an ear of the current admin
Why would you ask those conferences? That doesn’t matter. Like asking the Big 12 what they thought about OUT leaving
Any superleague is school driven and replacing current (inefficient) conference HQs.
Although I don’t think we’re likely to see it, certainly not next, it’s no different than schools leaving for more of a network’s money in a different conference
If an investor wanted to offer best of ACC and top half P2 $170 million/year, they’d get some interest. The ability of that overpayment to pressure other P2 into leaving is increased if we have uncapped revenue sharing or employment
LOL, there is not a single mention of Campbell in the Dodd article. You obviously didn't read it or can't read period.
Whilst I don't see the feds intervening, what's to say it doesn't end up being a "members only" club with just 24 teams? Or just the B1G and SEC? The money is still on the side of less teams not more.
It's all follow the money & game theory.
It’s held belief in higher ed that student life is going to be increasingly important during that cliff, as well as during residential education becoming a luxury good (over online learning)
When demand decreases, divestment in product differentiation and marketing rarely is the best move
LOL, you won't see someone from ESPN/SEC and B10/Fox speak to the advantages of pooling media rights. They will fight it as much as they can. Heck, Nick Saban removed himself from a Trump advisory role with Campbell because of his affiliation with ESPN.
And man, you are really having issues with the term doubling. It means you make twice as much money over a period of time. If you to continue with your silly mental numerical gymnastics over that simple concept, go for it.
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