Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[isucy86]

If poaching takes place that financially relegates 20-25 existing B12/ACC schools with massive cuts and loss of scholarship opportunities to non-rev & Olympic sports, the Feds won't permit it.

And in order to pool rights and fully monetize those rights, the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 has to be amended to enable pooling. And it won't be amended to facilitate a consolidated 40 or 48 team SEC/B10. It will be amended for 70-72 schools that are rationally realigned.

Your living in a fantasy land. Pooling isn't happening and the Federal Government won't intervene to force pooling/sharing of revenue across P4.

If anything, bigger likelihood that P2 or P4 spin off FB from the universities because of employee status & pay-for-play.

Then Title IX takes on a different scope with 100 fewer student athletes under university scope. And we could see some Olympic sports operate like Club sports.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

LOL, the Feds are actively involved now in college sports reform and one of primary points of focus is maintaining scholarship opportunities for Olympic and non-rev sports.

And your boy Pettiti has been active in lobbying for an Anti-Trust Exemption and codifying House and niether are happening if ESPN/SEC and Fox/B10 are going down a path of financially destroying the ACC and B12.

They really aren’t involved. Again I’m not gonna cave this but if you think the fed is going to do anything positive for universities then I just don’t think we will ever be remotely on the same page with this.

As always appreciate the discussion though

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I just don’t think there are that many “college football fans”. Most are fans of a team that’ll also support their conference. You take that team out of contention, you’re probably not going to drop $50-$100 / month to subscribe to the networks that made that happen.

But currently the big game draws that the causal fan will watch are OTA or espn which isn’t really adding anything new.

You also could be correct but I know plenty of people that went to non P4 schools that have fandoms tied to college teams they aren’t connected to. Think of the tavern hawks for you guys in Iowa. Every state has a team or two like that. Now younger generations might not go along with that but it’s a different conversation.

Still don’t think it’s going to happen but that part I think can be mitigated

 

[isucy86]

Fox controls B10 rights for the foreseeable future and they can partner with others as they see fit for their benefit. That sure as hell isn't an NFL-like playbook especially when Fox's actions destroyed the PAC, Oregon St and Washington St and they seemingly have more on their radar.

Why would the Big10 or FOX care if adding USC, UCLA, etc destroyed the Pac12? As a corporation, FOX was probably better off for Pac12 to fall apart

The Big10 is ONLY interested in strengthening the Big10. If the Big10 didn't add Pac12 schools at some point the SEC would have.

You seem to think this is: "All for One & One for All". That's delusional!!

The reality is: This is dog-eat-dog. And the Big12, ACC and Pac12 are "wearing milk-bone underwear".

 

[isucy86]

Fox controls B10 rights for the foreseeable future and they can partner with others as they see fit for their benefit. That sure as hell isn't an NFL-like playbook especially when Fox's actions destroyed the PAC, Oregon St and Washington St and they seemingly have more on their radar.

One size doesn't fit all. The NFL & NBA have BOTH been highly successful over the last 60 years.

The NFL merged with AFL franchises. While the NBA only poached the most valuable ABA franchises. What we are seeing in CFB mimics the path chosen by the NBA.

Two different paths, but two correct business decisions.

 

[Cyched]

Wasn't it the tandem of KU and ISU that were not long ago briefly rumored to be headed for a new league?

The Prophet Dave Wannstedt turned out to be off

 

[cykadelic2]

Why would the Big10 or FOX care if adding USC, UCLA, etc destroyed the Pac12? As a corporation, FOX was probably better off for Pac12 to fall apart

The Big10 is ONLY interested in strengthening the Big10. If the Big10 didn't add Pac12 schools at some point the SEC would have.

You seem to think this is: "All for One & One for All". That's delusional!!

The reality is: This is dog-eat-dog. And the Big12, ACC and Pac12 are "wearing milk-bone underwear".

Duh, of course they didn’t care.

And that is the problem and limiting factor with growth of the sport and the other sports they subsidize. And it obviously needs to be properly fixed and it likely will.

 

[cykadelic2]

One size doesn't fit all. The NFL & NBA have BOTH been highly successful over the last 60 years.

The NFL merged with AFL franchises. While the NBA only poached the most valuable ABA franchises. What we are seeing in CFB mimics the path chosen by the NBA.

Two different paths, but two correct business decisions.

If you really think Fox/B10 and ESPN/SEC have made and plan to make “correct business decisions“ that have and will inflict financial destruction to 25 or so P4 athletic programs(including ISU) and the loss of hundreds of scholarship opportunitie, you truly have your head up your ass.

 

[isucy86]

If you really think Fox/B10 and ESPN/SEC have made and plan to make “correct business decisions“ that have and will inflict financial destruction to 25 or so P4 athletic programs(including ISU) and the loss of hundreds of scholarship opportunitie, you truly have your head up your ass.

I'd love for the Big12 to be on an equal footing with the Big10 & SEC. But there's a small chance that happens and it won't happen because the Federal Government steps in. It would only happen if adding ISU to the SEC or Big10 makes financial sense for those two conferences. That only happens if ISU continues to have elite athletic teams in FB/Hoops AND our fan support continues to grow (think 70k fans in JT). The almost unsurmountable hurdle for ISU is the state of Iowa isn't a big or growing TV market.

YOU can choose to live in FANTASYLAND or face reality. College sports isn't a charity or socialism, it's been big business and ruled by greed for a long time. You can blame ESPN or FOX, but the college sport ecosystem was created by University Presidents and Athletic Directors. And schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, Oregon, Bama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, A&M, etc. aren't going to change.

ISU will adjust to whatever its reality is and will not face financial destruction. Does that mean some Olympic sport programs might end up being club sports (like Hockey), sure. It might mean Olympic Sports have to rely on strong donor support (like Wrestling) to be elite.

 

[cykadelic2]

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[ClubCy]

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Saving College Sports is a 501(c)4 organization dedicated to fighting for a college sports system that protects both student athletes and the future of college athletics at every level.

www.savingcollegesports.com

Policy - Saving College Sports

College sports face collapse from mismanagement, lawsuits, and revenue crises. Compare the four federal proposals here.

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Oh wow. That certainly would be good for college sports. I am unfamiliar to the thread is this new and could it actually happen?

 

[cykadelic2]

Oh wow. That certainly would be good for college sports. I am unfamiliar to the thread is this new and could it actually happen?

 

[cykadelic2]

 

[FinalFourCy]

Very likely MHver is jumping the gun, but this would be good imo. It would mean the ACC is going to be liquidated.

 

[awd4cy]

MHver3 has always been wrong about everything.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

If Notre Dame had agreed to anything, the national people would be all over it. MHver doing his attention seeking garbage again

 

[Al_4_State]

MHver3 has always been wrong about everything.

Not true, but he’s probably wrong about this

 

[2speedy1]

Not true, but he’s probably wrong about this

I mean its hard to tell what is right an wrong. I feel like he throws so much stuff at the wall, a few things have to be at least close.

 

[FinalFourCy]

If Notre Dame had agreed to anything, the national people would be all over it. MHver doing his attention seeking garbage again

Like how the national media were first on USC?

The national media generally have to wait until its already happened and time to be officially made public.

This is very likely premature at best, or even disinformation, given MHver has no reason to filter or vet. He’s liable to repost rumors from elsewhere as sourced inside info, but he’s not Swaim clickbait either

Any legitimate source knows these types will spread it to the audiences that care about realignment. A good way to gauge reactions, or push desired narratives.

We know the BIG is working on figuring out how to get ND. We know things aren’t exactly stable, with ACC schools now able to move, BIG ADs implying expansion will continue, and everyone trying to better position themselves for 2032ish changes

 

[1SEIACLONE]

ND will not join a conference until they have no path for making the playoff without being a conference member. So unless the committee that picks the teams passes a rule that only teams that play in.a conference are eligible, ND will stay an independent.