Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Would it give the Big 10 and SEC more money to pool their rights together or to pool together with the current ACC and Big 12? I bet the Big 10 and SEC add 6 teams in 2030 and then pool their rights together.
That's infinitely more likely than all of FBS banding together to the benefit of the bottom 50-70 brands and reducing the Top 20 brands per school take.

And terrifying for Big12 / ISU.
 
Revenues are maxed out with both pooling and rational realignment into 7 10-team conferences, not the BS of consolidating all the top brands in the B10 and SEC for the sole benefit of ESPN and Fox at continued discount payouts.
Overall revenue, probably.

Per team revenue for the big boys? Probably not. Which is why its unlikely.

You are basically on the "Unionize!" train, and I just don't see where the big brands will ever get on board. They'd rather have $1 and everyone else have a dime, than have $2 and everyone else has $1.50. Much rather.
 
Overall revenue, probably.

Per team revenue for the big boys? Probably not. Which is why its unlikely.

You are basically on the "Unionize!" train, and I just don't see where the big brands will ever get on board. They'd rather have $1 and everyone else have a dime, than have $2 and everyone else has $1.50. Much rather.
That train of thought isn't going to fly with the Feds as CFB seeks an anti-trust exemption.
 
Man I still cast believe your whole plan relies on the federal govt doing something. There are many reasons why this plan isn’t happening but that’s gotta be the biggest
Not trying to Cave this, but there’s nothing about our current climate that screams pro-Union or anti-trust. Who knows what it looks like closer to 2030.
 
Man I still cast believe your whole plan relies on the federal govt doing something. There are many reasons why this plan isn’t happening but that’s gotta be the biggest
But Cody Campbell is buddies with Donald Trump! A man known for being completely consistent and getting things done!
 
Man I still cast believe your whole plan relies on the federal govt doing something. There are many reasons why this plan isn’t happening but that’s gotta be the biggest
If you think that's the case, you better tell your Fox Puppet Boy, Pettiti, and Sankey to halt their ongoing lobbying efforts in DC to codify House and seek an anti-trust exemption to enforce it along with other rules (e.g. transfers).

And if there are massive widespread cuts to non-rev sports because the ESPN/Fox Puppet Boys won't play ball on media rights pooling and if additional ESPN/Fox realignment manipulation produces more relegation and financial destruction to impacted schools, there will be Fed intervention.
 
If you think that's the case, you better tell your Fox Puppet Boy, Pettiti, and Sankey to halt their ongoing lobbying efforts in DC to codify House and seek an anti-trust exemption to enforce it along with other rules (e.g. transfers).

And if there are massive widespread cuts to non-rev sports because the ESPN/Fox Puppet Boys won't play ball on media rights pooling and if additional ESPN/Fox realignment manipulation produces more relegation and financial destruction to impacted schools, there will be Fed intervention.
yeah there won’t be fed intervention, if anything the current admin will just punish schools more and yell at them for putting themselves in bad financial straights, the bootstraps ya know?
 
But Cody Campbell is buddies with Donald Trump! A man known for being completely consistent and getting things done!
I think it’s fair to say there’s never been a bigger Overton window in that regard. Anything is possible, and that’s inherently bullish change
 
If you think that's the case, you better tell your Fox Puppet Boy, Pettiti, and Sankey to halt their ongoing lobbying efforts in DC to codify House and seek an anti-trust exemption to enforce it along with other rules (e.g. transfers).

And if there are massive widespread cuts to non-rev sports because the ESPN/Fox Puppet Boys won't play ball on media rights pooling and if additional ESPN/Fox realignment manipulation produces more relegation and financial destruction to impacted schools, there will be Fed intervention.
Are Washington State University and Oregon State University still operating as universities? Do they still have intercollegiate Athletics programs?
 
Yeah right.

Any ACC backfill plan that poaches select B12 schools, includes USF, and doesn't include the likes of ISU/KSU is total BS and the fabrication of those with an element of USF affiliation.

The coastal elites don’t share your view. It has nothing to do with USF- this is coming from Stanford/ND scuttlebutt. USF is simply to keep ACCN in market in FL, as well as a cheap band aide until 2031. That’s logical, although perhaps they just sit at 11 until the Big 12 deal expires

It would depend on the deal the Big 12 could get, but as we saw with the PAC, getting a deal is difficult if schools are waiting to see if P2 invites are coming, or in the case of the 4C, even just an invite from ACC

The 4Cs, if the P2 are not expanding, would absolutely prefer to play with Cal and Stanford for the same money as Big 12. TCU and KU would probably follow at that point
 
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You can't be serious.

The Big 10 has expanded 4 times since 2009. Kansas has been interested and available every time. They have declined to add Kansas every single time.

After the Big 10 took Maryland from the ACC, the remaining schools added a lengthy GOR. All Big 10 expansion since then has been from leagues whose GORs were expiring soon. They are very clearly waiting for ACC properties.

If 20 with KU and Utah was their end game, it would exist right now. That's not hope. That's just blatant obviousness.
I mostly agree, the only thing that might be an issue is change.

Things Change as time goes on. School values change. The most valuable teams being already taken etc.

So if a school in question, increases their value, or everyone valued above them has already been taken off the board, then it is possible a school that wasnt a choice pick before, could become one.

I still agree it is a long shot and all the cards would have to fall in line for them, but it could become possible as things change.
 
Every school would take the Big 10 invite, KU is just the school that hasn't fully accepted the reality that it ain't coming.

I don't know that the others have any greater or lesser desire to be here, they've just come to terms with being passed over by the Big 10 and SEC 3-4 times in the last 15 years while KU still thinks "maybe this time".
If the Big10 ends up at 24 teams, then teams like: TCU (#5 MSA), ASU (#10), CU (#19), KU (#31) & Utah (#46) from the Big12 could be options. They fit the Big10's profile having schools in major metro areas.

But I also feel like any school the Big10 adds will need to be a consistent borderline Top 25 football program before the next round of realignment. KU does have an advantage that it is a basketball Blue Blood that draws national TV eyes. Unfortunately, if Yormark's vision of growing MBB TV revenue becomes a reality, then it increases KU's value to Big10 or SEC.
 
This is why I'm unconcerned about anyone in the Big 12.

Why did you wait until 2030? What's going to change between now and then? KU having a nicer football stadium than they use to doesn't change the reality that they aren't a historic football brand, and have limited upside being in a small population state that they split with another school.

Is there anything Utah's going to do that they haven't already done?

If the Big 10 adds those schools, it's because the Big 10 and SEC are going to like 30 teams each and we end up somewhere too.
I don't think the Big 12 will be touched unless it gets to 24 each.
 
Are Washington State University and Oregon State University still operating as universities? Do they still have intercollegiate Athletics programs?
Their ADs are already greatly diminished of what they used to be in terms of revenue streams and coach/athlete retention despite their windfall from PAC legal settlements. Oregon St is projecting a 44% decline in athletic revenue for fiscal year 2025. Both schools have lost their FB coaches and star QBs. Wazzu lost their MBB HC. Oregon St lost almost all of their Elite 8 WBB roster. JP used the word "destroyed" relative to both schools.

If ISU was relegated in similar fashion, JTS attendance would eventually be cut in half and it would be the single most devastating thing to hit ISU and Ames outside of a natural disaster.

And if 6 or more ACC and/or B12 schools are facing the same fate later this decade due to ESPN and Fox manipulation, there will likely be Fed intervention and that is also coming from JP.
 
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You can't be serious.

The Big 10 has expanded 4 times since 2009. Kansas has been interested and available every time. They have declined to add Kansas every single time.

After the Big 10 took Maryland from the ACC, the remaining schools added a lengthy GOR. All Big 10 expansion since then has been from leagues whose GORs were expiring soon. They are very clearly waiting for ACC properties.

If 20 with KU and Utah was their end game, it would exist right now. That's not hope. That's just blatant obviousness.

I get it, using history as a forecast is what we do when we lack information

It was even more logical to ask why would the BIG add two schools they just passed on

The BIG once shunned Nebraska too. Only to later take them when their brand had diminished and on the verge of losing AAU


What the BIG decided previously in a different era isn’t meaningless , but it doesn’t have much predictive value. Just like with Oregon and UW, not including KU could be a “not right now” sentiment than a “no, never”

There have been so many changes in the last 5 years, and many more to come, that it’s increasingly likely blue blood basketball starts to be included in realignment decisions, as well as an an alliance between top basketball only conferences and P2

And I think the SEC is as much in play for KU as BIG. UNC, Duke, KU, and UK all in the SEC would give the SEC a lot of say in CBB monetization. Given the likely amount of the new TV deal, that easily could mean hundreds of millions more for SEC
 
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If the P2 eventually want 24 it will be interesting to see who wants in the Big and who wants in the SEC. I would think schools that will have a choice like UNC would favor the south. I think the SEC has more future potential.