South Dakota Pregame Thread

USD does run a very pro-style offense, which ISUs defense typically does struggle with. Aidan has been smart with ball and efficient.
Jon Heacock eats one dimensional attacks for breakfast. A QB who doesn’t also pressure a defense with his feet would be one of those, RB attack or not.

Expect a lot of sacks Saturday.
 
Welcome to CF, and thanks for shedding some light on USD.

I don't think the UND game is a good proxy. ISU only had seven true possessions in the game, which was shortened by UND having a 23 play, 12:24 drive in the second quarter. They had a mobile quarterback and a gameplan that took advantage of a very green linebacking corps that didn't hit their run fits consistently or decisively and left holes in the short passing game. The strength of last year's defense was the secondary, which was completely moot against UND. When ISU scored, they scored quickly. UND ended up with 38 minutes of possession. Frustrating as it was to watch, the game was never in doubt.

I fully expect USD to try to shorten the game, and ISU's defense generally will let teams play underneath. But I'd be surprised if ISU's run defense was anything but stout, and unlike last year, ISU has a game under its belt to clean up execution and a lot of experience in the first two levels of the defense.
Exactly, and UND scored a whopping 3 points. So if South Dakota wants to slow things down, so be it. We might score less but they will as well.
 
If that was the one yard, then it is again, 2 scores. If he's saying one yard away, pick one score to apply the yard to...
I can only assume that some are counting what ifs like the pitch play, missed FG or Hansen down at the one.
 
It really isn't a new coaching staff, though. The head coach retired last season and the DC took over the head coach role. Offensive coordinator left and we replaced him with our TEs coach. The new DC is Coach Johansen's friend who has been a DC for multiple years at Northwestern (Orange City) and they spent countless hours bouncing ideas off each other when they were both DCs. I don't think the top three coaching positions miss much of step in this transition. A lot of the starters that are replacing the 16 that left are coming in with starter like snap counts from last season and Coach Rosenthal has done an unbelievable job hitting on the transfer portal. Be careful brushing off a team that is one of the top favorites to win the MVFC and championship.

ISU only scored 21 on UND last season and UND finished 5-7.
I appreciate your post and your optimism, but you’re rationalizing a great deal.

Your TE Coach is your new OC?

Been there, done that. Ironically, the score you quoted as justification was because our newly promoted OC/TE coach had growing pains.

Even more, you’re working in lots of new players.

I’ll believe your team can be top five in FCS type quality. But that’ll be in November, not August.

Your guys are simply going to be outmanned. This isn’t the same Cyclone team of even a couple of years ago.

Appreciate you stopping by!
 
If that was the one yard, then it is again, 2 scores. If he's saying one yard away, pick one score to apply the yard to...

Half yard line fumble and 1 inch line down by contact at the end of the game. Could have easily scored 14 more in a “normal” situation. Plus we missed a FG. We left 17 points on the field and still scored 24 against one of the better defenses we’ll play all year.

That and our defense played exceptionally well except for 2 big plays. Obviously you cannot discount those but we are SIGNIFICANTLY better than USD on both sides of the ball and even if we play a moderately clean game, we should win easily.

If we turn it over, play sloppy, give up big plays, etc. then it’s a different ballgame. But I’d play my money on ISU -14.5 over playing USD. We’ll see how the game plays out but I’m more confident after seeing last week than I was before the season for this game.
 
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It really isn't a new coaching staff, though. The head coach retired last season and the DC took over the head coach role. Offensive coordinator left and we replaced him with our TEs coach. The new DC is Coach Johansen's friend who has been a DC for multiple years at Northwestern (Orange City) and they spent countless hours bouncing ideas off each other when they were both DCs. I don't think the top three coaching positions miss much of step in this transition. A lot of the starters that are replacing the 16 that left are coming in with starter like snap counts from last season and Coach Rosenthal has done an unbelievable job hitting on the transfer portal. Be careful brushing off a team that is one of the top favorites to win the MVFC and championship.

ISU only scored 21 on UND last season and UND finished 5-7.
UND scored 36 against USD and UND finished 5-7. Campbell/ISU staff is well aware that USD is a good team that has the ability to pull an upset if ISU doesn't show up to play. It is a perfect spot for USD with ISU coming back from Ireland and Iowa the week after. USD will be up and ready for this game and can for sure compete. I just hope ISU is ready and comes out fast and wins by 14.5+
 
Half yard line fumble and 1 inch line down by contact at the end of the game. Could have easily scored 14 more in a “normal” situation. Plus we missed a FG. We left 17 points on the field and still scored 24 against one of the better defenses we’ll play all year.

That and our defense played exceptionally well except for 2 big plays. Obviously you cannot discount those but we are SIGNIFICANTLY better than USD on both sides of the ball and even if we play a moderately clean game, we should win easily.

If we turn it over, play sloppy, give up big plays, etc. then it’s a different ballgame. But I’d play my money on ISU -14.5 over playing USD. We’ll see how the game plays out but I’m more confident after seeing last week than I was before the season for this game.
I find this funny, because that is what we did Saturday for pretty much most of the game at different times. (turn overs and sloppy play in first half, gave up big plays in the second half)

It's all a silly exercise.

If you ignore all of our mistakes we could have beat that team by a lot more.

Did the other team make mistakes that helped our team?

Yeah, they made mistakes because they aren't a good team. We made mistakes but we are a good team and we won't make them again.

Carson's down at the goal line at the end of the game, I'll give you. If ISU would have needed that score they likely get it as they had 4 downs to get it in from inside the 1.
 
It really isn't a new coaching staff, though. The head coach retired last season and the DC took over the head coach role. Offensive coordinator left and we replaced him with our TEs coach. The new DC is Coach Johansen's friend who has been a DC for multiple years at Northwestern (Orange City) and they spent countless hours bouncing ideas off each other when they were both DCs. I don't think the top three coaching positions miss much of step in this transition. A lot of the starters that are replacing the 16 that left are coming in with starter like snap counts from last season and Coach Rosenthal has done an unbelievable job hitting on the transfer portal. Be careful brushing off a team that is one of the top favorites to win the MVFC and championship.

ISU only scored 21 on UND last season and UND finished 5-7.
ISU scored 21 against ND because they didn’t need to score more. Also it was the first game. The copium with the Yote crowd is inspiring
 
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I find this funny, because that is what we did Saturday for pretty much most of the game at different times. (turn overs and sloppy play in first half, gave up big plays in the second half)

It's all a silly exercise.

If you ignore all of our mistakes we could have beat that team by a lot more.

Did the other team make mistakes that helped our team?

Yeah, they made mistakes because they aren't a good team. We made mistakes but we are a good team and we won't make them again.

Carson's down at the goal line at the end of the game, I'll give you. If ISU would have needed that score they likely get it as they had 4 downs to get it in from inside the 1.

I’m not sure what your point is but I generally agree with you. I’m not complaining that we should have won by more - I’m saying we could very easily have put up 14 more points on one of the better defenses we’ll face. I guess I’m not seeing this “trap game” against a good FCS team that is breaking in 16 new starters after our Week 0 performance.

I’m simply stating my opinion that I feel good that we’ll win easily based on our Week 0 performance and won’t use last year’s Week 1 performance against a bad UND team as a reason why we’ll struggle on Saturday. That’s all.
 
ISU scored 21 against ND because they didn’t need to score more. Also it was the first game. The copium with the Yote crowd is inspiring
If I remember correctly, once ND got down they played that game like they didn’t want to get blown out. They played ball possession instead of trying to mount a comeback. It was very weird.
 
I expect the game to be similar to UND, annoyingly close but never in doubt. All you have to do is watch the first drive against UND to see what we could have done to them if Campbell let Rocco eat.
 
I expect the game to be similar to UND, annoyingly close but never in doubt. All you have to do is watch the first drive against UND to see what we could have done to them if Campbell let Rocco eat.

I don't even mind if it means the staff and team ironing things out rotating some guys, etc.

My only issue is if the score is say, 21-10, it takes exactly one play for things to get weird and momentum even for an inferior team is a hell of a drug.
 
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Been a while since I logged in here (Coyote grad), but have attended quite a few Iowa State games as a former season ticket holder (first college game I ever went to a certain #15 ran all over Texas Tech).

Iowa State by the numbers and talent wise is the better team. I would argue they are better at USD at every position except for maybe RB (Carson Hansen is really really fun to watch and reminds me of Travis Theis our RB last year, but that's just how good I think Pierre Jr. is for USD) and maybe K (both are in the 70%).

I really think USD's offense will struggle Saturday. It's really difficult to face that Heacock 3-3 defense because nobody in the Missouri Valley runs a similar version of it. It was interesting to listen to his presser yesterday to talk about trying to prep for a team that you have no idea what you're going to see, given the transfer portal and trying to just guess when prepping. If Orange plays anywhere close to how he did Saturday it will be difficult for USD to move the ball absent total lapses in coverage. USD's offense is pretty unknown given they will be starting 4 new starters at OL, replacing a TE, and really only one WR that had significant playing time. Plus, Bouman has very limited mobility, but doesn't make the big mistake. I don't put a lot of stock in the change in OC or DC, the schemes will be extremely similar. It'll be interesting to see how Iowa State's defense looks facing their first actual quarterback this year.

If USD is going to have any success, I think it will be trying to make the Cyclone offense one dimensional because the ISU receiving core is relatively untested (could be weather related). USD will not win a shootout, but if it turns into a physical battle that's a 1-2 score game going into the second half, they have a shot. I think USD wants a game similar to UND last year.

I think CMC and the staff will be ready to go, but you just never know given the Ireland travel schedule. Listening to the pregame presser, it throws a wrench in place when it takes until roughly Wednesday for a lot of people to go back to normal. I think y'all could win this by 3+ scores, but who knows, it's college football.
 
Been a while since I logged in here (Coyote grad), but have attended quite a few Iowa State games as a former season ticket holder (first college game I ever went to a certain #15 ran all over Texas Tech).

Iowa State by the numbers and talent wise is the better team. I would argue they are better at USD at every position except for maybe RB (Carson Hansen is really really fun to watch and reminds me of Travis Theis our RB last year, but that's just how good I think Pierre Jr. is for USD) and maybe K (both are in the 70%).

I really think USD's offense will struggle Saturday. It's really difficult to face that Heacock 3-3 defense because nobody in the Missouri Valley runs a similar version of it. It was interesting to listen to his presser yesterday to talk about trying to prep for a team that you have no idea what you're going to see, given the transfer portal and trying to just guess when prepping. If Orange plays anywhere close to how he did Saturday it will be difficult for USD to move the ball absent total lapses in coverage. USD's offense is pretty unknown given they will be starting 4 new starters at OL, replacing a TE, and really only one WR that had significant playing time. Plus, Bouman has very limited mobility, but doesn't make the big mistake. I don't put a lot of stock in the change in OC or DC, the schemes will be extremely similar. It'll be interesting to see how Iowa State's defense looks facing their first actual quarterback this year.

If USD is going to have any success, I think it will be trying to make the Cyclone offense one dimensional because the ISU receiving core is relatively untested (could be weather related). USD will not win a shootout, but if it turns into a physical battle that's a 1-2 score game going into the second half, they have a shot. I think USD wants a game similar to UND last year.

I think CMC and the staff will be ready to go, but you just never know given the Ireland travel schedule. Listening to the pregame presser, it throws a wrench in place when it takes until roughly Wednesday for a lot of people to go back to normal. I think y'all could win this by 3+ scores, but who knows, it's college football.
Respectable. It likely will be closer than it should but even if it gets weird and USD is somehow close in the 4th, I still won’t be all that worried (I will be annoyed) because that’s when Rocco does what he does.
 
The biggest concern is that USD having smaller d linemen will run multiple stunts to generate pressure and we have shown to not be very good at stopping those for quite some time now.
 

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