Jefferson NOT gone.

Cyclad

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Replies to this tweet mention that he was injured at the end of his regular season. Hopefully he will be foot to go for the season. I can’t find any additional info.

It was reported that the announcers said it was a season ending knee injury. Once I knew he was not playing I did not watch their game.
 
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Imagine if NIL had always been around. I don’t think many of my favorite Cyclones would have stayed in Ames.

Guys like Tinsley, Niang, Haliburton, etc would have had life changing money thrown at them when they blew up on the national scene. Obviously they’ve had long careers in the NBA but they essentially came out of nowhere.
 
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ISU does not have to compete with the big money schools but we do have to be competitive with other schools in our area and conference. If the B10 and SEC schools are going to be able to fund things at 2 or 3 times our level, we will become nothing more than a minor league for those two conferences. Kids that are diamonds in the rough will play for a year, and then jump for the money, which is what is now happening in the smaller conferences and lower levels. You cannot blame the kids for taking the money, but we need rules that allow us to keep at least some of them.
I said when this all started, every league/ team will become a feeder system to the level above them financially. We have several teams in the B12 that have the $ to compete with anybody, but we are not one of them. Example - BYU reportedly paying $7M for the top HS player in the country.
I am going to choose to remain hopeful on JJ until it is officially announced he is leaving. Hope it’s just a rumor.
 

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If he became a deadly 3 point shooter teams would absolutely love him as a big wing player. But that’s a huge if and it makes all the difference.

He’d be above average ball handler and passer for a player his size in nba. He doesn’t have nba explosiveness which is why his 3 ball needs to be much better.

Skill wise I think he’s there. Athletically a maybe. Honestly Niang is probably his comp.
 
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I said when this all started, every league/ team will become a feeder system to the level above them financially. We have several teams in the B12 that have the $ to compete with anybody, but we are not one of them. Example - BYU reportedly paying $7M for the top HS player in the country.
I am going to choose to remain hopeful on JJ until it is officially announced he is leaving. Hope it’s just a rumor.
Apparently Houston can compete. Dont need a committed fanbase, just need a billionaire (Fritatta, or whatever rf his name is) to buy players.

As far as being a feeder system, how many people watch AAA baseball? I can already feel myself becoming a much more casual fan, i missed some bball games on tv this year even, after having season tix for over a decade.
 
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Imagine if NIL had always been around. I don’t think many of my favorite Cyclones would have stayed in Ames.

Guys like Tinsley, Niang, Haliburton, etc would have had life changing money thrown at them when they blew up on the national scene. Obviously they’ve had long careers in the NBA but they essentially came out of nowhere.

Partly why I'm glad Keshon and Curtis don't have any more eligibility. They would almost certainly test the portal if they were still here (and who can blame them) and it would suck if their career at ISU ended that way.
The system needs to be fixed asap.
 

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Partly why I'm glad Keshon and Curtis don't have any more eligibility. They would almost certainly test the portal if they were still here (and who can blame them) and it would suck if their career at ISU ended that way.
The system needs to be fixed asap.

I think there was word that this type of thing happened with him last year but it may have just been someone reaching out to him.
 

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Imagine if NIL had always been around. I don’t think many of my favorite Cyclones would have stayed in Ames.

Guys like Tinsley, Niang, Haliburton, etc would have had life changing money thrown at them when they blew up on the national scene. Obviously they’ve had long careers in the NBA but they essentially came out of nowhere.
I think Hali and Niang would stay in Ames. They still talk about ISU/Ames to this day. Heck, Hali just named his dog Ames
 

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Apparently Houston can compete. Dont need a committed fanbase, just need a billionaire (Fritatta, or whatever rf his name is) to buy players.

As far as being a feeder system, how many people watch AAA baseball? I can already feel myself becoming a much more casual fan, i missed some bball games on tv this year even, after having season tix for over a decade.
Ive been moving that way for years as well. Love reading things on CF but just dont care nearly as much about college sports as i used to, everything going on with portal, NIL, realignment, etc has just accelerated that. Realization set in around 2018 that there are things id much rather spend free time doing and also there is no need to stress about outcomes of games involving 18-22 year olds.

My family ( parents, myself, farm, and businesses) donate to a-lot of places, two areas being a-lot of money to ISU athletics and the college in general. With everything happening in college sports and the loss of federal funding in other areas, including some in ISU, that are very important to our family we have been discussing reallocating our giving. No guarantee on what the outcome will be but athletics is generally the first one brought up that can be greatly reduced to shift to other causes important to us.
 

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I feel like I’ve become more casual as the NIL era has drug on. I still have season tickets for FB, WBB and donate to We Will, but my overall consumption of and interest in college sports has declined. I’ll pay attention to ISU and maybe a couple Big 12 games, but that’s it. It’s just getting harder to have anything more than a passing interest when the rosters turn over every year and you never know when your players are going to be poached/tampered with by a $EC or B1G program. If ISU ends up being relegated to the bottom of the pile, I’m out in terms of paying any attention to major college athletics
 
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I imagine our NIL support is going to decline pretty dramatically too with this economy…. but all programs will be dealing with that.
 

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I imagine our NIL support is going to decline pretty dramatically too with this economy…. but all programs will be dealing with that.
Just like in day to day life, the separation between the billionaires and us non billionaire scum will only grow.

I am curious what happens when media companies are left on the hook with giant contracts to broadcast a product the general public has mostly lost interest in. At some point regulation is in everyone’s best interest.
 

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Anyone here saying "he's not loyal!" is completely full of ****. If someone came offering to triple your pay and set you up for LIFE you aren't just blowing them off.

Loyalty goes two ways. If the market says someone is worth $2.5M and you aren't even paying them $1M you're just a ****** employer.
Not sure I’ve seen where anyone has said that
 
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Hope it's wrong but if it's true then what's the point in being a fan? No other sport on the planet operates this way. Just make them employees already and get them on contract. Why don't we want them to be employees exactly? Everything's already fckd up beyond recognition might as well go all the way.
It is going to be difficult to return the transfer portal back to any reasonable facsimile of what it was. (not that I believe the old system was good for the players) However, what we have now is "Dodge City" portal time. The players like the power that comes with the current portal system. The college game was always about the head coach, Jay Wright, Tom Izzo, Coach K, etc... now we are witnessing the players wrestling the power away. College basketball is on an NBA type trajectory- easier to get rid of the coach than turnover the roster.
 

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It is going to be difficult to return the transfer portal back to any reasonable facsimile of what it was. (not that I believe the old system was good for the players) However, what we have now is "Dodge City" portal time. The players like the power that comes with the current portal system. The college game was always about the head coach, Jay Wright, Tom Izzo, Coach K, etc... now we are witnessing the players wrestling the power away. College basketball is on an NBA type trajectory- easier to get rid of the coach than turnover the roster.

IMO, returning to having to sit a year after transferring would solve a lot of the issues. Still lets an athlete transfer if they want, but it makes it much more difficult to buy a top team.
 

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I imagine our NIL support is going to decline pretty dramatically too with this economy…. but all programs will be dealing with that.
not the ones with billionaire donors, they will be fine.
 
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