2024-2025 MBB computer projections thread

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Yesterday was a pretty great day for Iowa State seeding, most teams around us lost..

We have to win out the regular season of we want the two line, plus there is a shot at the #2 seed in KC, thanks to BYU!
Our NCAA location will most likely be Milwaukee or Denver regardless of seed. Wichita site will most likely be Houston and Texas AM. If you want Milwaukee, cheer against Purdue and Wisconsin. Most likely, we will just need to be ahead of one of them in the seed line to get MKE.

I will also note that the distance between Ames/Denver and Ames/Cleveland (another NCAA site) is very close. Its a quicker drive to Denver but shorter miles to Cleveland. Not sure what NCAA decides on that point or if that ask ISU where they want to go.
 
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Our NCAA location will most likely be Milwaukee or Denver regardless of seed. Wichita site will most likely be Houston and Texas AM. If you want Milwaukee, cheer against Purdue and Wisconsin. Most likely, we will just need to be ahead of one of them in the seed line to get MKE.

I will also note that the distance between Ames/Denver and Ames/Cleveland (another NCAA site) is very close. Its a quicker drive to Denver but shorter miles to Cleveland. Not sure what NCAA decides on that point or if that ask ISU where they want to go.
The problem with Cleveland is it is a lot closer trip to a lot of other teams (Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue) plus the second choice for bunch of other SEC teams that I don't think it would ever be a realistic option. Either we have a high speed and get a better spot, or we have a worse seed and other teams got preference for Cleveland.

The interesting thing is absolutely NO ONE is going to be the preference for Seattle. The closest team is Arizona, who'd obviously prefer Denver. That's going to be a terrible location for any one, especially if they place low seeds closer to home.
 

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Our NCAA location will most likely be Milwaukee or Denver regardless of seed. Wichita site will most likely be Houston and Texas AM. If you want Milwaukee, cheer against Purdue and Wisconsin. Most likely, we will just need to be ahead of one of them in the seed line to get MKE.

I will also note that the distance between Ames/Denver and Ames/Cleveland (another NCAA site) is very close. Its a quicker drive to Denver but shorter miles to Cleveland. Not sure what NCAA decides on that point or if that ask ISU where they want to go.

The Torvik scenario would work out as the following right now...

Cleveland = #6 Tennessee / #7 Michigan St.

Denver = #10 Iowa St. / #12 Arizona

Lexington = #1 Auburn / #5 Alabama

Milwaukee = #8 Kentucky / #9 Wisconsin

Providence = #13 Purdue / #14 Missouri

Raleigh = #2 Duke / #3 Florida

Seattle = #15 Texas A&M / #16 Maryland

Wichita = #4 Houston / #11 Texas Tech

Just missed passing Wisconsin for the Milwaukee slot, but Denver is a fine consolation prize.
 

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Yesterday was a pretty great day for Iowa State seeding, most teams around us lost..

We have to win out the regular season of we want the two line, plus there is a shot at the #2 seed in KC, thanks to BYU!
there is also a chance of dropping to the 5 if BYU continues to surge like they are.
 

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Our resume is just fine. Chill out.
If a not far from looking a whole lot worse. Marquette, Baylor and Arizona State are super close to being quad 2 wins. If we win the last 4, we will be fine but if we lose 2 or 3, we are probably dropping like a rock (5 seed maybe).
 

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Yesterday was a pretty great day for Iowa State seeding, most teams around us lost..

We have to win out the regular season of we want the two line, plus there is a shot at the #2 seed in KC, thanks to BYU!
That BYU game is scaring me, especially if we aren't full strength.

They've put up crazy-town offensive metrics in their 4 game winning streak - which is really impressive : WVU in Morgantown; cooling off a super hot KSU team; blowing out KU; then winning @ Arizona.

Over the last 10 games, they are second nationally, basically tied with Duke. In that stretch their eFG% is over 60%, and they are shooting 40% from three while taking almost half their shots from there.

We should beat them in Hilton - but we need to keep them off the three-point line, which (as we saw last year) is not always natural for our defense.
 

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The Torvik scenario would work out as the following right now...

Cleveland = #6 Tennessee / #7 Michigan St.

Denver = #10 Iowa St. / #12 Arizona

Lexington = #1 Auburn / #5 Alabama

Milwaukee = #8 Kentucky / #9 Wisconsin

Providence = #13 Purdue / #14 Missouri

Raleigh = #2 Duke / #3 Florida

Seattle = #15 Texas A&M / #16 Maryland

Wichita = #4 Houston / #11 Texas Tech

Just missed passing Wisconsin for the Milwaukee slot, but Denver is a fine consolation prize.

If you have time, could you do a site projection based on current Bracket Matrix s-curve? It shows as updated thru 2/22, although not all contributors have done update, of course. I would tackle it, but not able to assess properly right now. I'm curious. Quick glance, I think it'd be more favorable change for Milwuakee for ISU, but not certain.

 

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If you have time, could you do a site projection based on current Bracket Matrix s-curve? It shows as updated thru 2/22, although not all contributors have done update, of course. I would tackle it, but not able to assess properly right now. I'm curious. Quick glance, I think it'd be more favorable change for Milwuakee for ISU, but not certain.


Auburn = Lexington

Duke = Raleigh

Florida = Raleigh

Alabama = Lexington

Houston = Wichita

Tennessee = Cleveland

Wisconsin = Milwaukee

Texas A&M = Wichita

Iowa St. = Milwaukee

Purdue = Cleveland

Kentucky = Providence

Arizona = Denver

Michigan = Providence

Michigan St. = Denver

Texas Tech = Seattle

St. John’s = Seattle
 

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That BYU game is scaring me, especially if we aren't full strength.

They've put up crazy-town offensive metrics in their 4 game winning streak - which is really impressive : WVU in Morgantown; cooling off a super hot KSU team; blowing out KU; then winning @ Arizona.

Over the last 10 games, they are second nationally, basically tied with Duke. In that stretch their eFG% is over 60%, and they are shooting 40% from three while taking almost half their shots from there.

We should beat them in Hilton - but we need to keep them off the three-point line, which (as we saw last year) is not always natural for our defense.
BYU is very good, and they're not the best match-up for us, at least they weren't last year. Recall that last year's team, which was even better defensively metric-wise than this year's, lost at BYU by a lot, and barely survived BYU at Hilton. BYU looked the better team in our games with them and the net point differential reflected that. This year's BYU team is similar in that they space the court, have 4 shooters out there at all times (even though they don't have Khalifa running the point-forward from the top of the key), and move the ball well. We trap - a lot - teams that can beat our trap and reverse the ball quick find open shooters on the weak side of the court.

We shall see if we change for our game against BYU, but I doubt it and bet the game plan will be pretty similar since that's what Otz and staff did last year. That said, I can see a strong argument for not trapping much against BYU and playing more straight-up.

I thought yesterday's game from ISU was outstanding. They were down two big time players in a hostile environment against a top 5 team, and they hung in there. Color me impressed. I think this ISU team has a great chance to make a super deep run this March. Fun to watch!
 

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Auburn = Lexington

Duke = Raleigh

Florida = Raleigh

Alabama = Lexington

Houston = Wichita

Tennessee = Cleveland

Wisconsin = Milwaukee

Texas A&M = Wichita

Iowa St. = Milwaukee

Purdue = Cleveland

Kentucky = Providence

Arizona = Denver

Michigan = Providence

Michigan St. = Denver

Texas Tech = Seattle

St. John’s = Seattle
Thanks, Sig!
 
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Purdue losing today helps for fans who want to go to Milwaukee. They've lost 4 straight but their remaining schedule is much more soft than the past couple weeks so I'm guessing they'll surge back. I could see the conference tournaments be a tie breaker for some of these seed lines as well.
 

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Purdue isn't really crashing, they have just gotten to the harder part of their schedule..

Since Wisconsin collapsed at home on Saturday, they really only have a road game in East Lansing to improve their seeding. Purdue has 2 Q1 games remaining, home UCLA on Friday and at Illinois to close the regular season.

The Big 10 team I am actually most concerned about jumping us is Michigan State.. They have 2 Q1a and two Q1 games remaining. They could easily jump ISU due to the B1G boner
 

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Purdue isn't really crashing, they have just gotten to the harder part of their schedule..

Since Wisconsin collapsed at home on Saturday, they really only have a road game in East Lansing to improve their seeding. Purdue has 2 Q1 games remaining, home UCLA on Friday and at Illinois to close the regular season.

The Big 10 team I am actually most concerned about jumping us is Michigan State.. They have 2 Q1a and two Q1 games remaining. They could easily jump ISU due to the B1G boner
They may not be crashing but they are definitely sliding hard and fast. Lost four in a row, yes to better competition but if they were truly a 2 or even 3 seed they would have won a couple of them. And only one of the four losses were actually close.
 
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BYU is very good, and they're not the best match-up for us, at least they weren't last year. Recall that last year's team, which was even better defensively metric-wise than this year's, lost at BYU by a lot, and barely survived BYU at Hilton. BYU looked the better team in our games with them and the net point differential reflected that. This year's BYU team is similar in that they space the court, have 4 shooters out there at all times (even though they don't have Khalifa running the point-forward from the top of the key), and move the ball well. We trap - a lot - teams that can beat our trap and reverse the ball quick find open shooters on the weak side of the court.

We shall see if we change for our game against BYU, but I doubt it and bet the game plan will be pretty similar since that's what Otz and staff did last year. That said, I can see a strong argument for not trapping much against BYU and playing more straight-up.

I thought yesterday's game from ISU was outstanding. They were down two big time players in a hostile environment against a top 5 team, and they hung in there. Color me impressed. I think this ISU team has a great chance to make a super deep run this March. Fun to watch!
One thing about byu, assuming Gilbert and jones are back, we should be able to put Jefferson at the 5 and switch everything. At least at times. I don’t think that they have a super strong inside game. Switching should help with their 3 point shooting.
 

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Purdue isn't really crashing, they have just gotten to the harder part of their schedule..

Since Wisconsin collapsed at home on Saturday, they really only have a road game in East Lansing to improve their seeding. Purdue has 2 Q1 games remaining, home UCLA on Friday and at Illinois to close the regular season.

The Big 10 team I am actually most concerned about jumping us is Michigan State.. They have 2 Q1a and two Q1 games remaining. They could easily jump ISU due to the B1G boner
If MSU jumps ISU they will most likely land in Cleveland instead of Milwaukee. Still to early to call imo. Wisky will be favored in 3 of last 4. Purdue needs to win at home on Friday against UCLA. They still have to go to Illinois on the final day of reg season as well.
 

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One thing about byu, assuming Gilbert and jones are back, we should be able to put Jefferson at the 5 and switch everything. At least at times. I don’t think that they have a super strong inside game. Switching should help with their 3 point shooting.
I see your point about Jefferson, and it's a good one in general. Nice to have Jefferson's defensive versatility among the Bigs. However, my bigger point was a concern about us continuing our hard trap defense. We love to trap the corner (coffin corner) and for good reason, right, and we also hard trap different teams at different places on the court depending on their personnel. It's worked well and in general, I've been so impressed with TJ and staff. For example, we were trapping the outer thirds of the court it seemed like a fair amount against Houston. We disrupted their offense a bit and they kind of settled into just iso ball and let Cryer (mostly) or Uzan just go one-on-one to try and get a shot down the stretch. That's a testament to our defense. With BYU, their players are good at ball movement and good shooters who like to space it, probably better than UH in my opinion, so I don't know if that strategy will work against them.

I don't think the switching is as important - its whether we continue our hard trap defense and they beat it creating a 4 on 3 on the other side and a free three pointer for one of their shooters. That was deadly against us last year. Again, will be interesting to see what our staff draws up. It's fun to watch us play D.
 
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One thing about byu, assuming Gilbert and jones are back, we should be able to put Jefferson at the 5 and switch everything. At least at times. I don’t think that they have a super strong inside game. Switching should help with their 3 point shooting.
BYU looks like basically the same team as last year. Think Iowa, but better. They just let it fly and if they're hot, they can beat anyone. Have to keep them playing in the half court and grind them down.